has patriot completely given up on the box office?

[aasoror]

Newbie help ?!?
well .. if Patriot thinks so

[tskitishvili]

Hey maybe we should either rename this thread or start a new one called Have we given up on Patriot but not the PBO?

Although I think my PBRyan is the best realtek based player for the money, I'm not going to recommend it or buy any more software dependent products from Patriot.

Memory, Flash cards, etc. are excepted.

[scboley]

So patriot is moving these threads around? I guess no regular joes among us have moderator status huh.

[aasoror]

But still........for the price & build quality.........still a deal IMHO.

Even that is now debatable, O!Play R1 current least sale price is about $5 cheaper than the PBO current least sale price ($75 and $80 in Canada), all the other Realtek players are hovering around $80 ~ $120. Now considering they all have the same compatibility list (and very similar hardware), in such a very competitive market, its now arguable whether people should get a media player with no manufacturer support for a $10 savings and assume its a good deal.

[watcher]

Newbie help ?!?
well .. if Patriot thinks so

SEE.............this is EXACTLY why sub topics are a bad idea for this "SUB FORUM".
DUH!

[aasoror]

SEE.............this is EXACTLY why sub topics are a bad idea for this "SUB FORUM".
DUH!

moved to general discussion now ..

[outatouch0]

moved to general discussion now ..

General discussion... of what one should expect? Maybe it IS newbie help after-all ?

[Indo57]

I am sorry, but comments like that have been shot to death before. The initial WOW factor is expected and understandable for those who don't know any better (nothing personal its just mere truth), I would highly suggest you reading the 24 pages thread here and getting your facts straight first before putting "PBO", "unrealistic" and "complaints" in the same sentence.

If you go through the linked thread and still have something you feel needs further discussion feel free to post there

1. It seems also that there are also those who share my opinion in this thread.
2. It's performed well for 2 months or so, why is that WOW factor?
3. "those who don't know any better"? a rather patronising, arrogant comment.
4 I have browsed through most of the threads here already.
5. Which of my facts are not straight? please be specific.

I researched what was available and decided PBO was most suitable for me, the Asus also would probably do the job but still has quite a few problems, and I am perfectly happy with my decision. I choose not to run an internal HD because it seems to avoid som of the problems being reported and find it more convenient to use external drives anyway.
As I said, it does exactly what I ask of it. Other units have their problems too, including firmware upgrade problems and most of the problems reported in these forums.
The only legitimate bitch here seems to be that Patriot do seem to have moved on and forgotten BO.
The product itself seems to be no better or worse than most and you can find lists of complaints on most product forums.
Although not practical for me in Indonesia it appears that Patriot will readily replace any faulty boxes anyway. Is that true?

These products are all fairly new to the market and are bound to have a few issues 1080p hdmi video players at $100 are IMHO are an amazing feat and at that price I fully expect to replace it in a couple of years when these units have had a couple of generations development.
I would then expect that the issues people are having will have been resolved.
That's just how life works.
If you don't want any problems never buy the first models of anything.
Cars, TV's, CPU's, whatever, they all seem to have their problems ironed out over a generation or two, untill some new technology comes along and the process starts again.
Few products in this world are perfect, just look at Toyota's problems at the moment.

[aasoror]

1. It seems also that there are also those who share my opinion in this thread.

Thanks for getting back to me my friend.
Before I address the points you raised, can you please advice me if you have read this thread or not ? your comments would make me inclined to think that you DID NOT read this thread, if you didn't then I will just requote you the posts that "has shot to death every single point raised in both your posts", if you have indeed read this thread and still raise the points outlined in your post then perhaps the posts were not clear and I will -once again- address each of your points.

Once more, there is no arrogance or disrespect involved (and please accept my sincere apologies for any gestures that is certainly not intended), its mere logic, number and facts.

But let me start by quoting you ..

I bought my PBO 2 months ago ...

then you say

The only legitimate bitch here seems to be that Patriot do seem to have moved on and forgotten BO.

This is the whole issue which I think should be clear for you if you have read the posts here (the thread name is not "lets rant about how bad of a product the PBO is" .. right ?)

So you bought a product 2 months ago that was merely released 3-4 months before you got it, then you are saying that the manufacturer have moved on and forgotten their just released product ?!? I am sorry but this is just sad and is not acceptable and justifies for every single rant here.

I have rarely if ever got a piece of equipment which offers so much for such a small price so I really think that all the complaing is a bit unrealistic.
If you want top quality audio/video gear your looking at more like $1,000 not $100 so all things considered I think this is a groundbreaking bit of equipment for a very low price.

That what exactly what I meant by saying that such claims comes from those who don't know any better, and again there is no arrogance in my statement and no insult meant, because there is better and for the same price tag $100 or even less and with the same realtek chipset (1073DD) and they come with real manufacturer support and development efforts. You have just said that "you have never got a piece of equipment that does so much and for so little money", what I am telling you (with all respect and modesty), that there is FOR FACT better but you don't know it

There are indeed members shared your opinion but you will also find posts that answered every single point that was raised by those members. Just read this thread, or my very long posts (in this thread), there is facts, numbers, and links. Then come back and tell me if you still think that your fellow members complaints are "unrealistic".

To sum up, its all about the support, if you agree about that then there is nothing "unrealistic" about our complaints and there is also nothing to debate about and we all move along peacefully

[Indo57]

Ok, I can understand why you maybe came across sounding a bit annoyed. No problem.

My original post was basically trying to state that I think some of the expectations people have for the product are unrealistic in that a new product of this, or indeed any type usually has some issues.

I agree that Patriot should put some effort into this and offer support.
When I said that is a legitimate bitch I am only going on the reports here that are claiming that is the case.

You say that there is better and you may be right but what I think is that after researching all the info and reviews I could find the PBO is still the best for "my" purposes. If you can name some more for me to research that would be great as I am keen to follow the developements in this area for my next purchase.

My only priority is 1080p, DTS or Dolby surround and mkv file support and the PBO delivers that well, after firmware 02 upgrade.

Sorry I'm not meaning to critisise anyone it's just that I think this product can offer a great experience if used within it's limitations. and I am sure from what I've read that most others also do not perform perfectly.

You suggested I reply in this thread so I also apologise if it is not so appropriate for my comments.

As to the lack of support, it seems that this forum itself though gives a lot of help, which is why I first came here just to seek answers about firmware upgrade.

I think maybe different people have different expectations so bound to be dissagreements but you are right, we can move along peacefully and hope that support will improve. But meantime thanks to those who share their knowledge here.

Cheers