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djdandi
11-05-2010, 10:35 AM
I found the solution I give the code
as someone has 5 cables (white, black, blue, orange and green)

gnd - black
tx - blue
rx - white

I hope that you greet someone need

blaueslicht
11-07-2010, 09:08 PM
Hi aasoror,

thanks for the great instructions, but I have a little problem

original Nokia ca-42 adapter
5 colors
yellow --> -
red --> VCC
blue --> RX
white --> TX
black --> GND

Software: Win Vista + Hyper Terminal,
I have allready installed "PL2303_Prolific_DriverInstaller_v130"

the adapter is detected as "Nokia USB Phone Parent" in the device manager, that is not similar to your description.

settings in hyper terminal:

com 10 - 115200 - 8 -N -1 -N


This is displayed in the terminal:




1 0 1 1 1 0
free pages: 3731
Node 0, zone DVR 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0
1 0 1 1 4
free pages: 19727
cached size: 2647
try_to_free_pages: free 0
Node 0, zone DMA 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 1
0 1 1 1 0
free pages: 3731
Node 0, zone DVR 1 1 1 1
1 0 1 1 4
free pages: 19727
cached size: ^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[
^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[
^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[watchdog test pid 204, threshold: 50
^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[
^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[
^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[
^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[
^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[
^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[^[watchdog test pid 204, threshold: 50
sata1: reset phy extra!
sata phy reset
watchdog test pid 204, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 204, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 204, threshold: 50
sata1: reset phy extra!
sata phy reset
watchdog test pid 204, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 204, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 204, threshold: 50
sata1: phy reset timeout!
sata1: no device found (phy stat 00000000)
sata1: ata_bus_probe failed
scsi1 : SATA_DRV
sata dma reset
watchdog test pid 204, threshold: 50
sata2: reset phy again!
sata phy reset
watchdog test pid 204, threshold: 50
sata2: reset phy again!
sata phy reset
watchdog test pid 204, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 204, threshold: 50
sata2: phy reset timeout!
sata2: no device found (phy stat 00000000)
sata2: ata_bus_probe failed
watchdog test pid 204, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 204, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 204, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 204, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 204, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 204, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 204, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 204, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 204, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 204, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 204, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 204, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 204, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 204, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 204, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 204, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 204, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 204, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 204, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 204, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 204, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 204, threshold: 50


Perhaps you have any idea?

Thanks in advance!

The Globule
11-08-2010, 01:12 AM
Hold the Esc key before you turn on the PBO...
It looks like the PBO already started to boot before you pressed the ESC key.

aasoror
11-08-2010, 01:40 AM
Hold the Esc key before you turn on the PBO...
It looks like the PBO already started to boot before you pressed the ESC key.

+1, if that doesn't work then check the RX wire where the "esc" signal should be picked up by the PBO (perhaps switch that with the unassigned one).

Or is it the TX, I no longer remember whether the labels were the PBO side or the adapter side.

blaueslicht
11-08-2010, 09:35 PM
Hello,
thank you for help, but I've been not successfull.

I've checked the wires, but I think they are ok.

To define the Comport in Hyperterminal, I've to turn on the pbo.
Then I turn it off and close the connection.
While pressing Esc I turn the box on and also open the connection.




Linux Kernel:
FW Image from 0xa2020000, to 0x80100000, size=0x424086
Audio FW:
FW Image from 0xa2460000, to 0x81b00000, size=0x1c9000
Video FW:
FW Image from 0xa2640000, to 0x81d80000, size=0x236c88
PAL logo
5280Go 5280Go go 0x80100000 rootfstype=yaffs2 root=31:01 mtdpart
0k,82560k(/),61440k(/usr/local/etc),13184k
Reset Ethernet Mac.


Address = 0x80100000

Realtek LINUX (DC ALIAS) started...
Venus setting:
ROSs have 2621440 bytes RAM.
System CPU has 2 UARTs.
System CPU uses external timer interrupt.
Bootloader version: 0000.0202.0016. This version string is of new format
.
The information of this board: Company ID:0x0 CPU ID: 0x12 Board I
D: 0x202
Ethernet Mac address: 00.16.67.02.23.19
Model Config length=0
Base year of RTC is 2010.
Config serial console: console=ttyS0,115200n8r
prom_flashsize = 0x10000000
Linux version 2.6.12.6-VENUS (root@localhost.localdomain) (gcc version 3.4.4 mip
ssde-6.03.00-20051020) #4 Thu Sep 2 11:00:59 CST 2010
audio addr: 1b00000
CPU revision is: 00019378
Determined physical RAM map:
memory: 00100000 @ 00000000 (usable)
memory: 00442000 @ 00100000 (reserved)
memory: 015be000 @ 00542000 (usable)
memory: 00500000 @ 01b00000 (reserved)
memory: 06000000 @ 02000000 (usable)
show info: max_low_pfn:32768
show info: min_low_pfn:1346
ZONE: DMA, PFN: 0
ZONE: DVR, PFN: 8192
Built 1 zonelists
Kernel command line: rootfstype=yaffs2 root=31:01 mtdparts=rtk_nand:104960k,8256
0k(/),61440k(/usr/local/etc),13184k console=ttyS0,115200n8r ip=192.168.0.9::192.
168.0.254:255.0.0.0:::
Primary instruction cache 32kB, physically tagged, 4-way, linesize 32 bytes.
Primary data cache 32kB, 4-way, linesize 32 bytes.
Synthesized TLB refill handler (20 instructions).
Synthesized TLB load handler fastpath
Synthesized TLB store handler fastpath (32 instructions).
Synthesized TLB modify handler fastpath (31 instructions).
Cache parity protection disabled
PID hash table entries: 256 (order: 8, 4096 bytes)
Estimate value: CPU frequency 405.01 MHz
Using 27.000 MHz high precision timer.
Console: colour dummy device 80x25
Dentry cache hash table entries: 8192 (order: 3, 32768 bytes)
Inode-cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 2, 16384 bytes)
Memory: 119424k/121592k available (3490k kernel code, 2112k reserved, 605k dat
144k init, 0k highmem)
Warning! Unknown board id.
==================== Warning! The calculated loops_per_jiffy is not similar to t
he default one. ====================
Mount-cache hash table entries: 512
Checking for 'wait' instruction... available.
========== board id: 202 ==========
[INFO] neptune mode...
boot_param value: a0002800
mode: -1
size: -1
color1: 0xffffffff
color2: 0xffffffff
color3: 0xffffffff
color4: 0xffffffff
NET: Registered protocol family 16
SCSI subsystem initialized
usbcore: registered new dri
usbcore: registered new driver hub
se init module major number = 254
size of RPC_POLL_Dev 52 and RPC_INTR_Dev 52...
[user land] CmdBuf virt addr = 80678000/a0678000, phy addr=00678000
Hello, Realtek TLB Mapper
AllocBP size: 294912 order: 7
<<<DVR FREE AREA>>>
0: 0
1: 0
2: 0
3: 0
4: 0
5: 0
6: 0
7: 0
8: 0
9: 0
10: 0
11: 0
12: 6
Addr: 87000000, order: 12
Addr: 86000000, order: 12
Addr: 85000000, order: 12
Addr: 84000000, order: 12
Addr: 83000000, order: 12
Addr: 82000000, order: 12
squashfs: version 3.1 (2006/08/19) Phillip Lougher
devfs: 2004-01-31 R

[Audio Firmware Version] 329564
[Binary src compiled at] Aug 9 2010 16:24:30

ichard Gooch (rgooch@atnf.csiro.au)
devfs: boot_options: 0x1
JFFS2 version 2.2. (C) 2001-2003 Red Hat, Inc.
YAFFS Driver Rev:292241 (2010-01-19)
YAFFS Driver is successfully installing.
Initializing Cryptographic API
Generic RTC Driver v1.07
Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ 4 ports, IRQ sharing enabled
ttyS0 at MMIO 0x0 (irq = 3) is a 16550A

aasoror
11-08-2010, 10:09 PM
I've checked the wires, but I think they are ok.

How did you reach that conclusion ? have you used a voltmeter to identify the wires ?

LastButNotLeast
11-10-2010, 01:39 PM
How did you reach that conclusion ? have you used a voltmeter to identify the wires ?

And you can try this:

Quote:
you can try a simple test that wont break anything (you can only do this because you got 3 wires so the cable is USB powered).

Twist the naked green and white wires together, connect to the cable, run the HT, setup the connection as described in the OP, once you get the connection to open .. type anything at the prompt, if the white/green are indeed the txd/rxd then you should see whatever you type echoed back to you.
If one of them is ground then you should see nothing, so try green/yellow then white/yellow.

Once you determine the ground (by elimination), proceed with the connection to the PBO, even if rxd/txd are inverted this wont harm the PBO, you wont be able to send anything to the box and you will just see the startup sequence on the HT screen (because you will not be able to interrupt it with the escape key), just switch those wires and you should be done.

blaueslicht
11-10-2010, 08:25 PM
@ aasoror: I've checked the cable at the connector pins where you plug in the nokia phone.

Further I've comprehended LastButNotLeast's hint:

black= ground, red =Vcc
blue/ white: can see, whatever I've typed in the HT
blue/ yellow: -
white/yellow: -

blue= ground, red =Vcc
no function in any combination

white= ground, red =Vcc
no function in any combination

yellow= ground, red =Vcc
no function in any combination

So I think, that the first combination ist correct.


Perhaps I'm using the wrong driver, because i can't use the Profilic driver, also i can't force to install the driver.
With the Vista nokia driver I only can open the connection, if i'm starting the pbo.

aasoror
11-10-2010, 08:43 PM
black= ground, red =Vcc
blue/ white: can see, whatever I've typed in the HT

This means that blue/white is your Rx/Tx and also mean (because the cable is functioning) that your GND/VCC are connected correctly. This also suggests the driver is OK.

Now as you connect the PBO and can see the status messages running, this also means your Rx is connected properly which can only mean that Tx is also connected properly (from the previous step).

I am puzzled. The only time I had such problem was when I mistakenly swapped Tx for GND and I was only able to see the PBO running without the ability to interrupt it.

usminion
11-27-2010, 03:30 AM
I finally got my TTL-to-USB adapter in the mail today and am having all sorts of issues getting it to work.

The primary symptom I am trying to diagnose is that neither hyperterminal or putty display anything when holding down escape and turning on my PBO clone (I have a Hornettek Phantom).

The adapter I got off ebay is a USB to ttl module identical to this one (http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-TTL-Module-cp2102-arm9-max232-max2332-6-pins-/250399285596). I know I have seen reference to it in other posts so I figured it would work magically out of the box (unfortunately it didn't). The module came with a 4 pin cd rom audio cable but the pin mappings don't seem very logical. The pins on the ttl-to-usb module are:

1. 3.3V
2. RST
3. TXD
4. RXD
5. GND
6. +5V

and I attached the cable to pins 1-4 and the other end of the cable to (respectively):

1. GND
2. VCC
3. TX
4. RX

It doesn't seem right that the V3.3 would be directly connected to ground, nor does it make sense that we would want the V3.3 to be attached to RX. I've tried it both ways and the latter actually blue screened my new Windows 7 laptop. Does anyone else here have a working setup using the CP2102 module? If so how do you have it mapped. Also I will need to get new cables to connect the module to the Phantom but the only one's of the type described in the original post on ebay were from China. Living in the states it can take up to a month to have anything shipped from there, so I'm looking to terminate my own wires. Does anyone know what the terminators on those dupont wires are called and if they are available for sale at general electronics stores (Radio Shack, etc)?

Another issue that may be causing this is the driver installed for this module. It came with a CD but the file names look to be in chinese and the setup.exe doesn't work right. Running windows 7 I am guessing the drivers on the CD won't work anyway so I also tried the driver linked in this thread for windows 7 but it also didn't work. A quick google of CP2102 drivers win 7 provided a link to here (http://www.silabs.com/products/mcu/pages/usbtouartbridgevcpdrivers.aspx) so I downloaded and installed that driver which windows accepted as being correct. It looks like it should work fine but if anyone knows differently please let me know.

One more possibility that leaves a bad taste in my mouth is that before I get the right drivers installed I thought if I played with the cable enough it would just start working (genius I know). Of course I tried the wrong combination of wires and pins (used the +5V with something I shouldn't have) and of course started to smell a little burning plastic. None of the components look damaged and I'm guessing it was just the wire cover melting but there is always a chance that I fried something. The Phantom still boots to the boot splash before failing to load the disk image so I'm hoping it is still good and the CP2102 still shines its light and stirs events in Windows when I plug it in so it is probably also still good. I only reveal this unfortunate and slightly embarrassing fact in case everything is setup correctly and it is still not working. Hopefully someone will find fault in something else going on that can be easily corrected without having to burn another $60 to replace a smoldering paperweight.

Any hints or tips anyone could offer would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

MB

aasoror
11-27-2010, 04:44 AM
The pins on the ttl-to-usb module are:

1. 3.3V
2. RST
3. TXD
4. RXD
5. GND
6. +5V

and I attached the cable to pins 1-4 and the other end of the cable to (respectively):

1. GND
2. VCC
3. TX
4. RX



Here is what you want to do:
Adapter Pin 1 (3.3V) --> PBO VCC Pin
Adapter Pin 3 (TXD) --> PBO RX Pin
Adapter Pin 4 (RXD) --> PBO TX Pin
Adapter Pin 5 (GND) --> PBO GND Pin

If that didn't work try swapping TX with RX.

Best of luck,

dadogroove
11-27-2010, 10:20 PM
Used a CA-42 with 5 wires without a problem

VCC=green; RXD=blue; TXD=white; GND=black; red-unused

Thanks for all the posted assistance. Up to bootcode 27 now from 18.

Armed with a continuity tester and this image, you can figure out which wires are which.

http://jethomson.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/ca-42_dku-5_pinout.jpg

from here: http://jethomson.wordpress.com/2010/02/21/diy-usb-to-serial-cable-for-3usd/

hgeorges
12-14-2010, 04:39 PM
Hello;
I attempted to follow the instructions to upgraded the bootcode from v16, but have not been successful. Here is what I did:
- made the cable, soldered checked pin layout etc. all ok.
- installed usb to serial driver (I'm running Windows XP) - didn't take/didn't show in device manager
- ignored the detail, having noticed that I have two virtual serial ports installed by my Blackberry desktop manager and connected the usb cable to my notebook - PBO power led turned on, even w/o PBO power being connected
- started hyperterminal - set the speed etc, held ESC key
- turned PBO power on - the LAN led started flashing orange; I don't have any network cable plugged in
- nothing came up on hyperterm screen
- pulled the usb cable back and reinserted a coupel of times, to see if the notebook notices the change (as it does when I connect an external drive, by webcam, or my blackberry) - eventually my notebook froze (I have xternal USB keybd and mouse hooked to it); didn't respond to anycommand, and had to turn it off. Started again.
- removed the driver I've installed from here, and remained with what the desktop manager had installed previously (COM3,4).
- repeated the earlier procedures; same result. Changed also hyperterm with putty, set on serial. the same result.
- not sure what else I should try...:confused:
- checked the unit - plugged the composite signal into a monitor and it still works!

Any advice is appreciated!

HG

Anakie
12-15-2010, 04:58 AM
Does anyone know if the latest firmware P61-R2 will support bootcode 16 ??? I am really thinking of doing this.

aasoror
12-15-2010, 05:21 AM
Does anyone know if the latest firmware P61-R2 will support bootcode 16 ??? I am really thinking of doing this.

Nope it doesn't, it clearly says "for bootcode 18+"

aasoror
12-15-2010, 05:25 AM
- installed usb to serial driver (I'm running Windows XP) - didn't take/didn't show in device manager

If you remove all drivers, and windows doesn't detect the cable (at saying new hardware detected) then the cable is faulty.

hgeorges
12-15-2010, 10:18 AM
If you remove all drivers, and windows doesn't detect the cable (at saying new hardware detected) then the cable is faulty.

Actually the cable is good. I've just checked the continuity with the ohmmeter.

The computer "sees" the cable briefly - but doesn't recognize the device attached to it. The driver installed from your first page did not install properly, even if it actually reported installation success. I've interpreted it as a (hidden) conflict with the Blackberry desktop manager, which provides already two virtual com drivers.
I have not removed the dektop manager yet, to make room for the other driver, because, having now taken the meter, I went ahead and measured the voltage on both sides, and the results puzzled me:
On the notebook side:
GND-Vcc=+5v; GND-Tx & GND-Rx = 0V
On the PBO side:
GND any of the pins = 3Vcc

Since the notebook injects 5V it is clear why PBO POWER and LAN LEDs turn on when connecting the two. If I turn on PBO power (with the usb cable connected), the LAN led goes off, and the Power led stays on.

The port on PBO may be toasted?

Anakie
12-16-2010, 12:12 AM
Is there any advantage in flashing your bootcode all the way to bootcode 27 or is bootcode 18 OK?

mansat
12-16-2010, 12:46 AM
I received my CA-42 cable today but it is only 3 wire. Looks like it's missing VCC. Will this work?

snappy46
12-16-2010, 03:29 AM
Is there any advantage in flashing your bootcode all the way to bootcode 27 or is bootcode 18 OK?

If all the hardware (TV, Hard Drive, USB devices etc....) that you have connected to your PBO work fine I really don't see the benefit to update your bootcode since bootcode 18 allows you to install any firmware you want. That being said not much information came with each different bootcode therefore it is hard to say.

My modo is there are no need to screw with it if it's not broken.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Cheers !!!

aasoror
12-16-2010, 03:30 AM
Is there any advantage in flashing your bootcode all the way to bootcode 27 or is bootcode 18 OK?

If you are going to update anyway, why not go with the latest and greatest ?! even if we don't know what it actually does. It costs money to develop and release these bootcodes so there must be some kind of "unseen" advantage to them. ;)

snappy46
12-16-2010, 03:33 AM
If you are going to update anyway, why not go with the latest and greatest ?! even if we don't know what it actually does. It costs money to develop and release these bootcodes so there must be some kind of "unseen" advantage to them. ;)

+1 I assumed he/she already were at bootcode 18 but if you are at bootcode 16 by all means go all the way.

aasoror
12-16-2010, 03:37 AM
My modo is there are no need to screw with it if it's not broken.

+1, I thought you are on BC16. If you already have BC18 you don't need to attempt it if everything is running fine.

aasoror
12-16-2010, 03:39 AM
I received my CA-42 cable today but it is only 3 wire. Looks like it's missing VCC. Will this work?

Yes it will, its powered by the USB. Just read the only thread talking about the CA-42 and you will find all the details.

Best of luck.

Noodle
12-16-2010, 06:05 PM
Where can I get latest bootcode? I can only find 23 from patriot site. I know there's 26, and 27 maybe?

aasoror
12-16-2010, 07:02 PM
Where can I get latest bootcode? I can only find 23 from patriot site. I know there's 26, and 27 maybe?

From the sticky here (http://www.patriotmem.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3683).

hgeorges
12-17-2010, 12:53 AM
Actually the cable is good. I've just checked the continuity with the ohmmeter.

The computer "sees" the cable briefly - but doesn't recognize the device attached to it. The driver installed from your first page did not install properly, even if it actually reported installation success. I've interpreted it as a (hidden) conflict with the Blackberry desktop manager, which provides already two virtual com drivers.
I have not removed the dektop manager yet, to make room for the other driver, because, having now taken the meter, I went ahead and measured the voltage on both sides, and the results puzzled me:
On the notebook side:
GND-Vcc=+5v; GND-Tx & GND-Rx = 0V
On the PBO side:
GND any of the pins = 3Vcc

Since the notebook injects 5V it is clear why PBO POWER and LAN LEDs turn on when connecting the two. If I turn on PBO power (with the usb cable connected), the LAN led goes off, and the Power led stays on.

The port on PBO may be toasted?

Following my earlier post, can anyone measure the voltage on your PBO pins and let me know their values?

I'm concerned that the port is perhaps toasted... The unit is still functional, as I've able to load the updated software through the usb thumbdrive. but I'm not able to get the bootcode updated to a newer version.

Thanks much for your help.

hg

mansat
12-18-2010, 03:04 AM
Received my CA-42 cable and it is only 3 wire. Looks like it is missing the Vcc. Will this work for unbricking my PBO?

snappy46
12-18-2010, 04:29 AM
Received my CA-42 cable and it is only 3 wire. Looks like it is missing the Vcc. Will this work for unbricking my PBO?

Yes three wires only means that the voltage to power up the small circuit inside the plug of the cable is provided by the computer USB port therefore you do not need to connect the VCC line from the PBO. Basically your 3 wires consist of:

1- Gnd
2- RX
3- TX

Look at this link: http://patriotmem.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3479 for the various cable configurations.

Good Luck

KOWHeigel
12-21-2010, 01:05 PM
Just wanted to say a quick thank you to Aasoror for this great guide. I ordered the parts from ebay and tried this process last night just for fun. It pretty much went without a hitch and I was successful in putting a new bootcode on my pbo. I feel I can now mess with firmware's, etc... without too much fear of bricking the pbo.

for reference I ordered this ca-42: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290425651135&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_2312wt_882

and the wires were the same as Aasoror's:

red = vcc
black = ground
green = rx
white = tx

I have no electrical or modding experience and this was pretty darn easy. Just requires some wire strippers and electrical tape.

Thanks again!

vi-king
12-23-2010, 05:50 PM
I logged in and tried many time but it still does not let me download bootcode 27. I can only downloat bootcode 18. Please explain and help. Thanks.

aasoror
12-23-2010, 06:46 PM
I logged in and tried many time but it still does not let me download bootcode 27. I can only downloat bootcode 18. Please explain and help. Thanks.

try redownload the files it might got corrupted.
What messages do you get that doesn't confirm with the screen shots in the first post ? And when exactly ?

You mentioned you cant do BC27, how about BC23 ?

vi-king
12-28-2010, 05:08 AM
I was not able to download BC23. But today I can download both 27 and 23. Thanks for reply.

royb122
12-31-2010, 04:53 AM
Hi Folks,

Thanks to you all.. and a million thanks to aasoror. Last week I got my CA-42 Cable from eBay with blue, orange and red..
Blue --> Rx, Red --> Tx, Orange --> GND
As suggested, i read the other thread where there was a discussion of swapping Tx <X> Rx was done and i tried that first and got disheartened... but then when I put Blue to last pin (Rx) and Red to 2nd one (Tx) all made sense.

My PBO wasn't bricked but I thought updating bootcode may fix the xViD issue I'm having. updated the bootcode to 27 and used the official P61-R2 but still no luck.

Then read about the mega pack - Which I'm going to try right now. already downgraded to ES-51-283G-PCMPBO25-P02. Wish me luck!

A very Happy New year to you all!!
-B

Bxscig
01-02-2011, 02:55 AM
I have a couple of USB to Serial (DB9) dongles laying around that I use for work... Can I take the 3 pins, TXD, RXD and GND to connect it to the PBO and use the drivers specific to the dongle to get the same results?

Thanks!

Bxscig
01-03-2011, 06:23 PM
I have a couple of USB to Serial (DB9) dongles laying around that I use for work... Can I take the 3 pins, TXD, RXD and GND to connect it to the PBO and use the drivers specific to the dongle to get the same results?

Thanks!

A couple of these USB to Serial (DB9) dongles I have use the PL-2303 chip it seems.

ecsaltz
01-04-2011, 12:24 PM
Just wanted to say a quick thank you to Aasoror for this great guide. I ordered the parts from ebay and tried this process last night just for fun. It pretty much went without a hitch and I was successful in putting a new bootcode on my pbo. I feel I can now mess with firmware's, etc... without too much fear of bricking the pbo.

for reference I ordered this ca-42: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...#ht_2312wt_882

and the wires were the same as Aasoror's:

red = vcc
black = ground
green = rx
white = tx

I have no electrical or modding experience and this was pretty darn easy. Just requires some wire strippers and electrical tape.

Thanks again!

I used the eBay link above to order the cable on 12-30-2010. Four days later, I got the cable and modified it per this thread. Voila! Using this cable, I updated my firmware without any issues - I am a happy camper! [Quote corrected 1-10-2010]

sbrabus
01-19-2011, 04:29 AM
I want to tell Many thanks aasoror for this theme and the help. Mine PBO now as the newcomer.

007james
01-22-2011, 02:53 AM
I'm stuck on the loading of the bootcode, over 10 mins

CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC CCCCCCCCCCCCCC

aasoror
01-22-2011, 04:49 AM
I'm stuck on the loading of the bootcode, over 10 mins

CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC CCCCCCCCCCCCCC

at which step are you stuck ?
Have you already uploaded the bootcode file using the YG Protocol ?
Have you executed the "go" command ?

Exeqtor
01-22-2011, 06:09 AM
I'm stuck on the loading of the bootcode, over 10 mins

CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC

I had the same so I think it's normal (of course if you executed previous command load -b asc://tty0 0x80100000 ).
When you see this line of signs you must pick up from menu Transfer / Send File using the YG Protocol as aasoror said.

After sending you should see information about completing transfer but at my case it didn't show up.
So after sending a file I wait for a while and then executed "go" command and it's working.

007james
01-22-2011, 01:40 PM
well when I pick up from menu Transfer / Send File using the YG Protocol a box appears and I browse to bootcode .0027.bin and nothing really happens, I see in the "retries" box numbers incrementing. Should I be going back to the hyber-term and enter go at this point???
And one more thing, does it matter if the hard drive is in?


Ok, I just tried again and after I browse to the file in the YG Protocol I see the error "no Packet"

007james
01-22-2011, 03:13 PM
well when I pick up from menu Transfer / Send File using the YG Protocol a box appears and I browse to bootcode .0027.bin and nothing really happens, I see in the "retries" box numbers incrementing. Should I be going back to the hyber-term and enter go at this point???
And one more thing, does it matter if the hard drive is in?


Ok, I just tried again and after I browse to the file in the YG Protocol I see the error "no Packet"

again, thanks for everyone's help. User error on my part, for some reason I was picking receive file instead of send.......

aasoror
01-22-2011, 06:46 PM
again, thanks for everyone's help. User error on my part, for some reason I was picking receive file instead of send.......

no problem,
Thanks for the update.
Enjoy your PBO.

Mr Nobody
01-23-2011, 02:44 PM
I am trying to build the cable and I am stumped.

I have 4 wires and using a multimeter and this picture:

http://buffalo.nas-central.org/wiki/File:CA-42_DKU-5_pinout.jpg

I have:

Black - Pin 8 (ground)
White - Pin 7 (Tx)
Green - Pin 6 (Rx)
Red - Pin 5

I have 3 wires connected to the PBO (not using the red).

The PBO pins are: Rx, Tx, Vcc (nothing connected), and GND. GND being closest to the fan.

Tried 9600-8N1N, 57600-8N1N, 115200-8N1N

On Netbook (XP):
When holding Esc and turing on the PBO, I get garbage (high ASCII) on the screen.
Even without holding the Esc and turning on the PBO, I get the same garbage.
Without the PBO connected, I can make HT echo by shorting the white and green wires, confirming the are Tx & Rx.

On PC (XP):
Nothing on screen when turning on PBO (Esc or not)
No echo with white&green shorted.

Cable plugged into PC but not PBO, voltage betwen black+green is 3.5V (PC) or 3.6V (Netbook), 0V for all other wire combinations

aasoror
01-23-2011, 04:54 PM
On Netbook (XP):
When holding Esc and turing on the PBO, I get garbage (high ASCII) on the screen.
Even without holding the Esc and turning on the PBO, I get the same garbage.
Without the PBO connected, I can make HT echo by shorting the white and green wires, confirming the are Tx & Rx.


Try swapping them (Tx & Rx).

snappy46
01-24-2011, 12:47 AM
I am trying to build the cable and I am stumped.

I have 4 wires and using a multimeter and this picture:

http://buffalo.nas-central.org/wiki/File:CA-42_DKU-5_pinout.jpg

I have:

Black - Pin 8 (ground)
White - Pin 7 (Tx)
Green - Pin 6 (Rx)
Red - Pin 5

I have 3 wires connected to the PBO (not using the red).



Hmmmmm!!! I believe if you have 4 wires then the forth wire should be connected to PBO to provide power to the RS232 to TTL converter. Those connector with only 3 wires does not require the PBO VCC since the power for RS232 is provided by the USB port. That being said I find it strange that you have voltage on your PBO RX pin; which leads me to believe that power is available after all.

Have you tried to connect the red wire to the PBO VCC ???? That might resolve the issue you are having.

unmesh
01-29-2011, 09:47 PM
I'm trying to modify this cable and took the precaution of checking the pin to wire mapping on the phone side of the cable after cutting it into two.

The surprising thing is that pins 2-7 are connected but 8 (Data Ground) is not. I'm pretty sure I counted the pins off correctly since pin 8 is a long pin.

Do I need to buy a different cable since a missing ground cannot be good.

Thanks.

Mr Nobody
02-01-2011, 12:43 AM
Try swapping them (Tx & Rx).

No luck with swapping.

I assume the serial restore works with any firmware? I'm using Medebo.

Mr Nobody
02-01-2011, 12:49 AM
Hmmmmm!!! I believe if you have 4 wires then the forth wire should be connected to PBO to provide power to the RS232 to TTL converter. Those connector with only 3 wires does not require the PBO VCC since the power for RS232 is provided by the USB port. That being said I find it strange that you have voltage on your PBO RX pin; which leads me to believe that power is available after all.

Have you tried to connect the red wire to the PBO VCC ???? That might resolve the issue you are having.

I would assume though that the DEFINITIVE way of figuring out which wire is which is by looking at this picture:

http://buffalo.nas-central.org/wiki/File:CA-42_DKU-5_pinout.jpg

Or am I wrong?

If the picture is DEFINITIVE, then my 4th wire goes to pin 5 (unused) not pin 4( 3.3V).

Either way, I have tried with the 4th wire plugged to the VCC of the PBO and no luck either. I suspect perhaps its not meant to be and this has fried the cable?

Also, I do get 3.5V to the Rx, BUT I do not get 3.5V to the Tx. Am I supposed to, when everything is working?

Regarding shorting Rx & Tx. Just the bridging from my figures is enough to make letters echo, I don't need actually touch the two wires together.

Its all very odd. My only conclusion is the wire is defective or I fried it.

andrew_k
02-03-2011, 07:49 PM
I suggest you to buy another cable, and look at this pinout
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g146/icecreamterror/dku-5.gif
(almost the same, but you see that pin 5 is no t "unused") :) Good luck!

unmesh
02-05-2011, 06:46 PM
I bought an OEM Nokia cable, cut it into two, checked continuity and assembled the serial cable, all before first plugging it into a USB port. Now I discover that neither of my PCs will recognize the active cable and look for the drivers :mad:

Any chance that Nokia puts the serial chip in the phone connector and not the USB connector?

aasoror
02-05-2011, 09:15 PM
I bought an OEM Nokia cable, cut it into two, checked continuity and assembled the serial cable, all before first plugging it into a USB port. Now I discover that neither of my PCs will recognize the active cable and look for the drivers :mad:

Any chance that Nokia puts the serial chip in the phone connector and not the USB connector?

0 chances, but you do know that not any "OEM Nokia cable" would work, all Nokia cables are normal USB data cables except for the two cables listed in the thread.

unmesh
02-06-2011, 01:27 AM
I bought a Nokia OEM CA-42 from a US vendor because the (cheaper) Ebay listings were from Chinese vendors who are off for the Chinese New Year. The only other cable I saw mentioned in the OP was a CA-43.

Should I have looked deeper into the thread?

aasoror
02-06-2011, 02:15 AM
Should I have looked deeper into the thread?

No its only the DKU-5 and CA-42.
Well there is a chance the cable is defective.

kkcheng
02-09-2011, 10:25 PM
Hi there,

I have problems in connecting the unit to my computer thru USB to serial connection. The unit cannot be recognized by the computer.
Any hints what would cause it?

aasoror
02-10-2011, 06:37 AM
Hi there,

I have problems in connecting the unit to my computer thru USB to serial connection. The unit cannot be recognized by the computer.
Any hints what would cause it?

Since my crystal ball is currently under maintenance, do you mind providing more info ?!

- What is the device that's not recognized by your PC ? is it the cable (if so then which cable) or the PBO ?!
- What error message you are getting ? what is the status of the cable as seen from windows device manager ?
- Which drivers have you used ?
- Which version of windows do you have ?

I am sorry I wouldn't have asked all these obvious questions, its just my darn crystal ball being out of service currently ;)

kkcheng
02-14-2011, 10:32 PM
Thanks for the reply. The driver I am using is PL-2303. And I had tried Windows XP Pro. and Windows 7 (with PL driver for win7).
After checking out the previous posts, I think I was using a wrong USB cable (without any chip). So, no matter how I swap the RXD & TXD wires, the device is still not recognized by the computer.

I am going to buy the right USB to serial cable as what you'd suggested.
Thanks again.

taladro2011
02-16-2011, 04:36 PM
[
I had a problem. in Section 4, after freezes in hyperterminal "watchdog test pid 184, thereshold: 50 ", and I can not do anything else. help! Please, reply to email taladro@datafull.com .

Tks.-

PD. Attached Image.

bigddaddy
02-21-2011, 04:47 PM
I recently purchased a PBO and was planning to do some cross-flashing. When I opened my unit, I discovered that my serial port is a 4-pin female header, not 4 male pins as I expected. So the prescribed CD/DVD audio cable is won't work with my PBO. This header appears to be soldered directly to the motherboard.

Anyone else have this issue or have I overlooked something here?

TIA

aasoror
02-21-2011, 05:42 PM
Anyone else have this issue or have I overlooked something here?
TIA
This was reported before, apparently its a newer design randomly poping up here and there.
You will need to add the pins to the female connector, should be available on ebay, then proceed with the rest of the instructions.

200 pin for $2.35 shipped (http://cgi.ebay.com/5X-40Pin-2-54mm-Pitch-Single-Row-Header-DIP-Strip-PCB-/280526377228)

bigddaddy
02-21-2011, 06:18 PM
Aasoror - thanks for the quick reply and link for obtaining pins.

bigdddaddy

tony10103
02-21-2011, 09:07 PM
http://i54.tinypic.com/k4wlki.jpg

aasoror
02-22-2011, 03:47 AM
Aasoror - thanks for the quick reply and link for obtaining pins.

bigdddaddy

There is also this one (nicely priced as well)
http://i20.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/b5/95/6e3b_1.JPG (http://cgi.ebay.ca/Molex-KK-Series-Vertical-PCB-Header-4pin-156-/160244997406)

IanC
02-22-2011, 06:24 AM
Might be a nice item aasoror, but he want's $22.25 US to ship a $1.00 part to Canada by mail. That's ridiculous!

aasoror
02-22-2011, 08:31 AM
Might be a nice item aasoror, but he want's $22.25 US to ship a $1.00 part to Canada by mail. That's ridiculous!

The seller has a local shipping to US $1.22 (which sounds reasonable), If I was interested I would directly approach the seller, sometimes they either mistakenly set the shipping calculator or use a pricier service (US priority mail) or set the shipping so high intentionally to avoid international orders.

You can ask if the seller is willing to use USPS first class international, the stamp should cost him $1 to ship to Canada :)

unmesh
02-23-2011, 04:56 AM
I finally got a cheap cable from China to replace the OEM Nokia that was a bust and, after struggling with Hyperterminal's "Cannot open ComN" messages that have been described earlier in this thread, I got into the Realtek ROM Monitor :)

I have not tried to download firmware over the serial cable and won't be surprised if I run into flow control problems. Does anyone know if YModem or Zmodem is supported by the ROM Monitor since YModem-G has neither flow control nor error-checking?

This weekend I will try again to load the MedeBO firmware that bricked my PBO the last time I tried.

I think I'm the one that first posted that the debug connector was female in the new boxes so I've made sure that I have parts that can work with either gender.

Kzbd
02-28-2011, 01:46 AM
How can the cable CA-42 be detected before its connected to the PBO? I plug mine into my windows 7 64 computer and nothing happens. I have no way to install the windows 7 drivers because when I try to right click and install the .inf it says "The INF file you selected does not support this type of installation", so when I run the xp driver install file, connect the PBO to it and power it on then try to update the driver it says its incompatible. I get the same thing when I connect and power on the PBO without having installed anything.

Also my CA-42 has yellow, white, black, blue, and red. Might be a good idea to include a link to how to handle that in the first post instead of saying "you can do this in under 10 minutes, your cable might have different colors"

aasoror
02-28-2011, 03:45 AM
Also my CA-42 has yellow, white, black, blue, and red. Might be a good idea to include a link to how to handle that in the first post instead of saying "you can do this in under 10 minutes, your cable might have different colors"

Thanks for your valuable contribution in this thread, beside including basic wire deduction techniques, resource links that contains pin outs for the cable (which can be verified with continuity test using a multimeter) and not to mention including every single wire assignment reported on this thread, not sure what else can be done beside traveling to your location and doing it on site for you, I live in Ontario Canada so if you can cover the travel expenses I don't have a problem arranging doing that for you. ;)

Kzbd
03-01-2011, 06:43 AM
[Moderator edit: Please do not misuse your posting privileges if you are interested in keeping them, you have been warned]

plumeria
03-01-2011, 07:41 AM
Rather than insulting someone who has been incredibly helpful, why not go back a few pages in this thread and order the cable that at least 2 people have reported working with no issues off ebay. It will take you about 2-3 minutes to get that link. That is what I just did....

peter

Kzbd
03-01-2011, 08:16 PM
Thanks for your valuable contribution in this thread, beside including basic wire deduction techniques, resource links that contains pin outs for the cable (which can be verified with continuity test using a multimeter) and not to mention including every single wire assignment reported on this thread, not sure what else can be done beside traveling to your location and doing it on site for you, I live in Ontario Canada so if you can cover the travel expenses I don't have a problem arranging doing that for you. ;)

This kind of insulting sarcasm doesn't help anyone. You're representing Patriot. Reported

aasoror
03-01-2011, 09:28 PM
This kind of insulting sarcasm doesn't help anyone. You're representing Patriot. Reported

Thank you for discoloring your language. Insulting fellow members who are contributing out of their good heart wont get you any where (except getting you out of the this COMMUNITY forum).

With that behind us, rest assured that I DON'T REPRESENT PATRIOT and neither any of us here (except for Patriot_Ben), well not until we are actually paid for helping you. So till that point, and for future reference (and thats not personally directed to Kzbd), the general attitude when commenting/contributing/asking for help on a thread/post made by FELLOW MEMBERS who happen to be offering their FELLOW MEMBERS free support is to be THANKFUL and RESPECTFUL.

Back to topic, which is a highly successful 30 pages DIY (DO IT YOURSELF) thread about getting your bootcode updated, IMHO you have been way more successful if you have troubled yourself by actually going fully through the first post and the resource links listed, instead of unjustifiably complaining about the lack of information that is already there as I pointed earlier.

With all that said, you are more than welcomed to add the info you still think lacking, you know its a community forum, this is the only way been going so strong (with 0 official presence for PM) by filling the gaps for each others.

Thanks again for understanding,

Kzbd
03-01-2011, 10:28 PM
Thank you for discoloring your language. Insulting fellow members who are contributing out of their good heart wont get you any where (except getting you out of the this COMMUNITY forum).

With that behind us, rest assured that I DON'T REPRESENT PATRIOT and neither any of us here (except for Patriot_Ben), well not until we are actually paid for helping you. So till that point, and for future reference (and thats not personally directed to Kzbd), the general attitude when commenting/contributing/asking for help on a thread/post made by FELLOW MEMBERS who happen to be offering their FELLOW MEMBERS free support is to be THANKFUL and RESPECTFUL.

Back to topic, which is a highly successful 30 pages DIY (DO IT YOURSELF) thread about getting your bootcode updated, IMHO you have been way more successful if you have troubled yourself by actually going fully through the first post and the resource links listed, instead of unjustifiably complaining about the lack of information that is already there as I pointed earlier.

With all that said, you are more than welcomed to add the info you still think lacking, you know its a community forum, this is the only way been going so strong (with 0 official presence for PM) by filling the gaps for each others.

Thanks again for understanding,

Whatever, if you want to be RESPECTED and expect GRATITUDE, try not to be insulting and sarcastic. You may think you don't represent patriot but as a moderator on THEIR forum you do.

aasoror
03-02-2011, 12:46 AM
Whatever, if you want to be RESPECTED and expect GRATITUDE, try not to be insulting and sarcastic. You may think you don't represent patriot but as a moderator on THEIR forum you do.

You fail to understand me, and it ends for me here as I am no longer interested in dwelling deeper.

Please reread your post, you made it like it was my fault that you couldn't figure out the color codes, though the information, and I repeat, was already there, yet you fail to see it, then you write asking me to do spell it out further and you accuse me of misrepresenting my thread :

Might be a good idea to include a link to how to handle that in the first post instead of saying "you can do this in under 10 minutes, your cable might have different colors"
The above post is insulting enough for me and for the efforts I put into this thread, my reply to you was earned and justified.

Regarding gratitude, no one of the contributers here is expecting gratitude from anyone but ingratitude is not welcomed, towards any freely contributing member (or any other members). And for respect, trust me we have no choice about it, we are all peers we can either respect each others as community members or lose our posting privileges.

And I don't think I don't represent Patriot, I KNOW I don't represent Patriot, I am a community moderator, so I represent the community, and if you have a problem with that feel free to contact Patriot to discuss it with them.

Again, since this is a DIY thread, once you manage to DIY feel free to contribute and fill the missing gaps and I can bet lots of other members will show you gratitude for your efforts.

I am done here, thanks

rhino
03-03-2011, 11:20 PM
Type the following command at the prompt to load the bootcode file (press Enter when done)
[/LIST]

load -b asc://tty0 0x80100000

How long this step take?..I got this far but after 40 minutes it's still running....did i do something wrong here or i miss anything?

aasoror
03-04-2011, 12:14 AM
Type the following command at the prompt to load the bootcode file (press Enter when done)
[/LIST]

load -b asc://tty0 0x80100000

How long this step take?..I got this far but after 40 minutes it's still running....did i do something wrong here or i miss anything?

It doesn't take any time, you will start seeing trash symbols on the screen which is indication that the PBO is ready to receive the file, just go on with the next step "transfer the file using the G-modem protocol"

aspedisca
03-04-2011, 07:55 AM
Hey,
I got exactly what you have. I got it from ebay and I have 5 cables. The problem with that ca-42 is it is not recognized when there is no power. You have to turn on PBO to get t recignized, so it is being late to press esc.

Unlike others, I think it is important to know the color combination. Because I could not find that combination on the main page.
Anyway, here is the solution for that kind of cables. If your cable is not recognized when the pbo is off, please read for the solution.

First of all, get a remote(I used remote because it already had serial batteries so I just used two cables from + and - to get power) with two aaa, or aa batteries (I used aa so I do not know if it works with aaa)

connect the + (from batteries) from the batteries to the red wire,
and - (from batteries) to the black wire.

When you plug in the cable it should be recignized now without connecting the PBO.

white from cable - goes to white in first post.
blue from cable - goes to the green at the first post.

Also connect a wire to the ground ttl of the PBO (black on the first post) and connect the other end to the - of the batteries (so they have common ground)

I do not know if it is confusing but if you have questions you can ask. I got the cable today, I did this trick and it worked like a charm. Well, saved the day.
Thanks

aasoror
03-04-2011, 04:56 PM
First of all, get a remote(I used remote because it already had serial batteries so I just used two cables from + and - to get power) with two aaa, or aa batteries (I used aa so I do not know if it works with aaa)

connect the + (from batteries) from the batteries to the red wire,
and - (from batteries) to the black wire.

When you plug in the cable it should be recignized now without connecting the PBO.


Thank you for sharing, its an excellent idea.

locoroco2
03-13-2011, 05:42 AM
I just got my CA-42 cable, but it only has 3 wires in it, i.e. Red, Blue & Yellow, so how should I setup the cable? Must I have a CA-42 cable with 4 wires in it in order for it to work? Coincidentally my old CD-audio cable also a 3-pin 3-wire version :rolleyes:

Thanks alot. :o

aasoror
03-13-2011, 07:50 AM
I just got my CA-42 cable, but it only has 3 wires in it, i.e. Red, Blue & Yellow, so how should I setup the cable? Must I have a CA-42 cable with 4 wires in it in order for it to work? Coincidentally my old CD-audio cable also a 3-pin 3-wire version :rolleyes:

Thanks alot. :o

actually you are lucky, this 3 wire version is easier to setup because its USB powered so there is no VCC wire to worry about.

Refer to the "unbrick for $5" link my signature below, there is lots of wire assignments listed as well as a deduction process for 3-wire cables.

Best of luck,

locoroco2
03-13-2011, 05:14 PM
Thanks alot for ur helps! Finally I've got it working :D

The 3-wire CA-42 cable i m using is the type with Blue connector. The wire assignment are:

Red -> TX
Blue -> RX
Orange -> GND

Just to share my mistake at first attempt below:

After I installed the cable driver the system didn't prompt me to restart the PC, so I thought the COM1 listed under Device Manager is the one I just installed, and I set the COM1 port parameters as (115200,8,N,1,N). Of course that's not the right COM.

Only after I restarted the PC i can see the "Prolific USB-to-Serial Comm Port (COM4)" listed under Device Manager's Ports listing.

--------------------------------

At the end I managed to flash the box to official P02 then from P02 to medebo 5249. Now everything working fine.

Thanks again! :)

malouff
03-15-2011, 04:35 PM
P01 (comes with bootcode 16 inside the rar)
P02 (comes with bootcode 18 inside the rar)
P04 (no bootcodes just the install image)
P05 (no bootcodes just the install image)

http://buffalo.nas-central.org/w/images/thumb/8/8f/CA-42_DKU-5_pinout.jpg/619px-CA-42_DKU-5_pinout.jpgI think these need to be added to the first post.
The image will be a good reference for figuring out color coding.
It would also be nice to know what firmware comes with what bootcode beforehand instead of having everyone have to download everything and check for themselves.

Thanks.

I am also thinking that for my SHIZZL Mede8er lock I will just need to issue erase -m once I get to the Realtek Rom Monitor prompt

aasoror
03-15-2011, 05:29 PM
The image will be a good reference for figuring out color coding.

Done


It would also be nice to know what firmware comes with what bootcode beforehand instead of having everyone have to download everything and check for themselves.

There is no need to go through the firmwares, there is now a separate thread (http://www.patriotmemory.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3683) for the bootcodes.


I am also thinking that for my SHIZZL Mede8er lock I will just need to issue erase -m once I get to the Realtek Rom Monitor prompt
Yes

adamuadamu
03-18-2011, 07:30 PM
Ok, I've boutght a cable; after disassemby I've got:
black -> GND
blue -> RX
white -> TX
red -> Vcc

but I'd like to check, if that's correct.
Is there any program to make the cable send signals to check? I've got a multimeter ready to read voltages, but how to make cable work without a connection?

aasoror
03-19-2011, 01:54 AM
Ok, I've boutght a cable; after disassemby I've got:
black -> GND
blue -> RX
white -> TX
red -> Vcc

but I'd like to check, if that's correct.
Is there any program to make the cable send signals to check? I've got a multimeter ready to read voltages, but how to make cable work without a connection?

The easiest way is to connect to the PBO, don't worry there is no way you would mess up the box by wrongly connecting the cable.

You can also check the AA battery suggestion to power up the cable several posts earlier.

Kzbd
03-20-2011, 02:16 AM
Jesus I finally got into the stupid rom monitor using putty. There's a search result someone said they expected the lan light to turn on when connected which I don't have. I was thinking com1 but the thing installed on com7 which you have to change in putty. The settings for the adapter have to be re entered in dev mgr every time you reboot.

Hyper Terminal on my xp box says connected with a timer whenever it connects succesfully to whatever port its set to. So my USB Serial adapter is on port 7 but hyper terminal connects to port 1 no problem, there's nothing there. Its happy, you can press and hold escape forever, but PBO on com7 has no idea you're trying to talk to it.

Thanks [Moderator edit: Please do not misuse your posting privileges if you are interested in keeping them, you have been warned (again)].

Kzbd
03-20-2011, 12:19 PM
Jesus I finally got into the stupid rom monitor using putty. There's a search result someone said they expected the lan light to turn on when connected which I don't have. I was thinking com1 but the thing installed on com7 which you have to change in putty. The settings for the adapter have to be re entered in dev mgr every time you reboot.

Hyper Terminal on my xp box says connected with a timer whenever it connects succesfully to whatever port its set to. So my USB Serial adapter is on port 7 but hyper terminal connects to port 1 no problem, there's nothing there. Its happy, you can press and hold escape forever, but PBO on com7 has no idea you're trying to talk to it.

Thanks [Moderator edit: Please do not misuse your posting privileges if you are interested in keeping them, you have been warned (again)].

[Moderator edit: You will not be permitted to start a flame war here, this is against the forum rules, if you have a problem with moderation actions please contact Patriot Memory directly, thanks for your understanding, any further violations will be infractioned and promptly removed.]

jeanloup
03-20-2011, 12:31 PM
Hi, just new in this forum, don't know if I'm in the right section
I have two PBO, one I bought from a dealer in my country (france) and one I lately bought in the US
my first one is bootcode 16 so i wanted to put it to 18
I had an issue with the ESC , does not seem to transmit and can't stop the device from loading, thought it was my cables or some driver issue,
but this morning i tried it on my second PBO and it works fine, the ESC stops the device from loading and I have the prompt
it seems the firt PBO does not receive the transmission then, maybe I'm not the only one with that issue
I also noticed a line in the boot process 'ES protect ON", could it be the problem ?

Patriot_Ben
03-21-2011, 06:42 PM
Guys,

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ua22Plumber
03-27-2011, 01:03 PM
can this process be done with a mac?

snappy46
03-27-2011, 03:58 PM
can this process be done with a mac?

If you can find a suitable replacement on the mac O/S to replace the window hyperterminal then you should be ok. For example in Linux I use minicom vs window hyperterminal and it works fine. The driver for the CA-42 might be your biggest issue on the mac. Google is your friend for that.

ua22Plumber
03-27-2011, 04:13 PM
If you can find a suitable replacement on the mac O/S to replace the window hyperterminal then you should be ok. For example in Linux I use minicom vs window hyperterminal and it works fine. The driver for the CA-42 might be your biggest issue on the mac. Google is your friend for that.

ok, thats what I thought... i was googling hyperterminal for mac and found some apps to try. just wanted to see what people here thought before i go bricking my newly acquired PBO with no way to fix it.

hdbuster
04-02-2011, 09:58 AM
I think I received the same cable as yours with 5 wires inside, from a US ebay seller (for I want it quick instead of taking 10 days shipped from China).
This cable is Made in Thailand.
With a multimeter, I figured out the configuration of this cable:

yellow: not in use
red: VCC
black: GND
blue: Rx
white: Tx

There are several things with this cable that are so different from the first post that I almost gave up and purchased another cable from China, until I figure it out after numerous tries. Here are the steps:
1. There is nothing happened when this cable is plugged into USB unless it also connected with PBO and PBO is powered on.
2. Install driver mentioned in first post (I'm using Windows XP)
3. Plug the cable into the series port of PBO and turn PBO on, at this time the cable is recognized by Windows as
Nokia CA-42 USB Phone Parent
and
Nokia CA-42 USB Modem

No extra COM port is found in Device Manager, but HyperTerminal is able to see an extra COM port (COM3 or COM7).

4. Now it's the tricky part. In the first post, this step is called "holding the Esc key switch the PBO on". The purpose of this is to keep sending ESC to PBO before anything starts in order to call Realtek Rom Monitor. It suits those cables that can create a COM before PBO powers on. While in my case, COM3 is unavailable when PBO is off. It seems a mission impossible to send ESC to COM3 before PBO starts, until I figured it out by accident. Here's what I did:
1. Power on PBO
2. Run HyperTerminal and have it connectted to PBO
3. Power off PBO
4. Now press ESC and power on PBO as the same time with each of your hand, give several tries till it works. It will.


I have A CA42 Nokia with 5

yellow
red
black
blue
white

if I connect it to my PBO and give Power to the PBO my Computer found new Hardware and installed it as Nokia CA-42 USB Phone parent
and Nokia CA 42 USB Modem, but I am not be able to change the drivers, how can I solve this?

The drivers forr the modem are

c:\windows\system32\drivers\modem.sys
c:\windows\system32\drivers\usbser.sys
c:\windows\system32\usbser_lowerflt.sys


Thanks for help



metzi

phil_12345
04-05-2011, 12:34 AM
Black = Grnd
Green = Vcc
Blue=Tx
White=Rx
Orange=not use.

aasoror
04-05-2011, 04:37 AM
yellow: not in use
red: VCC
black: GND
blue: Rx
white: Tx



Black = Grnd
Green = Vcc
Blue=Tx
White=Rx
Orange=not use.

Thank you hdbuster and phil_12345, op updated with your findings.

snowball!42
04-07-2011, 10:50 PM
i tried this for a few hours without success. used a usb to serial adapter and an old computer audio cable to connect to the pbo. i would never get the rom monitor to show in hyper terminal. i finally gave up and went to bed.
then today it dawned on me that maybe matching rx and tx from the adapter to the pbo is not so smart...

so for all of you who can't get the communication with the pbo right: switch rx and tx wires!

worked on the first try, under 333 seconds :-)

thanks soo much, guys. next time i'll switch my brain on, too

aasoror
04-08-2011, 12:42 AM
thanks soo much, guys.
No problem :)
Enjoy your PBO.

By the way would be great if you can share your wire assignment when you get the chance.

ua22Plumber
04-08-2011, 02:00 AM
is there anyone with mac experience on this topic? I have the cable. it is recognized when plugged into my Mac. I open ZTerm and it does not give the option to use the cable, only list bluetooth.
Any ideas on how to get this to work?

beeja75
04-08-2011, 02:57 AM
No matter what I do, I can't seem to get hyperterminal to recognize the esc press and give me a prompt, it just continues it's boot process.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!!

Thanks!

aasoror
04-08-2011, 05:33 AM
No matter what I do, I can't seem to get hyperterminal to recognize the esc press and give me a prompt, it just continues it's boot process.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!!

Thanks!
Once passed the booting sequence, can you type commands on the PBO command prompt ? if not then your RX (PBO) is connected fine, try swapping TX with one of the other terminals.

Also if your cable is PBO powered you will need to read about the work around posted several posts above.

Best of luck,

beeja75
04-08-2011, 04:38 PM
Once passed the booting sequence, can you type commands on the PBO command prompt ? if not then your RX (PBO) is connected fine, try swapping TX with one of the other terminals.

Also if your cable is PBO powered you will need to read about the work around posted several posts above.

Best of luck,

Here's what I get, you can see the continuous repeat at the end, just goes on forever:

I is running...
[HDMI]: Disable HDCP
[HDMI]: Set I2C Speed = 50 kHz
[HDMI]: Increase i2c pull-low strength.
[HDMI]: Hotplug Change !!! -1 -> 0
watchdog test pid 184, threshold: 50
sata1: reset phy extra!
sata phy reset
watchdog test pid 184, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 184, threshold: 50
sata1: reset phy extra!
sata phy reset
watchdog test pid 184, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 184, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 184, threshold: 50
sata1: reset phy extra!
sata phy reset
watchdog test pid 184, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 184, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 184, threshold: 50
sata1: phy reset timeout!
sata1: no device found (phy stat 00000000)
sata1: ata_bus_probe failed
scsi1 : SATA_DRV
sata dma reset
watchdog test pid 184, threshold: 50
sata2: reset phy again!
sata phy reset
watchdog test pid 184, threshold: 50
sata2: reset phy again!
sata phy reset
watchdog test pid 184, threshold: 50
sata phy reset
watchdog test pid 184, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 184, threshold: 50
sata2: phy reset timeout!
sata2: no device found (phy stat 00000000)
sata2: ata_bus_probe failed
watchdog test pid 184, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 184, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 184, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 184, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 184, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 184, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 184, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 184, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 184, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 184, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 184, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 184, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 184, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 184, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 184, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 184, threshold: 50
watchdog test pid 184, threshold: 50

beeja75
04-12-2011, 07:26 PM
bump.....any help from anyone on the above?

Thanks so much in advance!

aasoror
04-14-2011, 07:50 PM
bump.....any help from anyone on the above?

Thanks so much in advance!

Have you attempted any pin switching ?

beeja75
04-14-2011, 08:42 PM
most all combinations :(

I'm using this adaptor, not a cable....

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270694777675&ssPageName=ADME:L:OU:CA:1123

aasoror
04-14-2011, 09:01 PM
most all combinations :(

I'm using this adaptor, not a cable....

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270694777675&ssPageName=ADME:L:OU:CA:1123

mmm .. does the com port appear once you plug the USB adapter ? or you need to power up the PBO first for your PC to detect the adapter and open the com port ?

beeja75
04-14-2011, 09:06 PM
Com port comes up right away

aasoror
04-14-2011, 10:22 PM
Com port comes up right away
So your adapter is USB powered, the one last thing to try, is to connect RX to TX (both on the adapter), this should echo whatever input you type if your input isn't echoed back then your adapter is malfunctioning

beeja75
04-14-2011, 10:32 PM
Great idea! Will try this weekend when I get from my out of town business trip!

Thanks so much for the help!

Mitch86
04-15-2011, 01:54 AM
just got the adapter in the help post, connected and it sees the adapter as COM3

However when I attempt to connect to the PBO with leads only it does not see on COM3

When i have leads connected and turn on the PBO, hyper terminal will connect and give me a readout of the boot process however i cannot stop it or do anything
http://postimg.com/34000/photo-33236.jpg

aasoror
04-15-2011, 03:07 AM
When i have leads connected and turn on the PBO, hyper terminal will connect and give me a readout of the boot process however i cannot stop it or do anything


Apparently your adapter is TTL powered.
Find the solution below:



4. Now it's the tricky part. In first post, this step is called "holding the Esc key switch the PBO on". The purpose of this is to keep sending ESC to COM then PBO before anything starts to call Realtek Rom Monitor. It suits those cables that can create a COM before PBO powers on, so that ESC can be sent to PBO before anything starts. While in my case, The COM3 is unavailable for HyperTerminal when PBO is off. COM3 is available only after PBO is on. It seems it's mission impossible to send ESC to COM3 before PBO starts, until I figured it out by accident. You need to follow these step:
Power on PBO
Run HyperTerminal and connect to PBO
Power off PBO
Now try to press ESC and power on PBO as the same time with each of your hand, give several tries till it works. It will.

Mitch86
04-15-2011, 03:47 AM
Awesome great job aasoror !!!!! one day I will update to the video wall & such for now this is awesome stuff!! No more fake warrenties with swapping internal units lol

UPDATE

Quick question, difference between bootcodes? Fast way for video wall?

aasoror
04-19-2011, 08:52 PM
UPDATE
Quick question, difference between bootcodes? Fast way for video wall?
We are a little bit in the dark in this area:
- BC 18 and later support both squashfs and yaffs2 file systems while BC 16 only support yaffs2
- BC 20 has a wider compatibility with HDD's > 500GB
- BC 27 has a faster bootup time and change the box behavior as a USB storage when connected to a PC.

temamix
04-27-2011, 08:32 AM
Greetings from Rossiа.My screensaver PBO and then black screen.U I have a question, COM port on your computer, you can use directly? Program Hypertrm window shows tekst.Can you know?

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brujay
04-27-2011, 05:49 PM
I need some help

I bricked my PBO by using the wrong firmware and now stuck on the PBO Logo

I bought this RS232 USB to UART TTL Cable module PL2303 Converter from
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250736677870&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

I connected everything, installed drivers etc but my ESC key is not picking up so I used my cursor to call manually while pressing the PBO's power button and this is what i got in the Hyper Terminal


hello world!
5280 wait5280 waiA
REALTEK ROM Monitor, Revision 0000.0202.0016.
Copyright (c) Realtek Semiconductor Corp. - All Rights Reserved.

For a list of available commands, type 'help'.

Compilation time /version= Sep 8 2009 10:51:36 /0000.0202.0016
MAC address = 00.16.67.02.18.45
Processor Company ID/options = 0x01 (MIPS Technologies, Inc.) / 0x00
Processor ID/revision = 0x93 / 0x78
Endianness = Little
Flash memory size = 256 MByte
SDRAM size = 128 MByte
First free SDRAM address = 0x800fd000

Press 'ESC' to Monitor mode
Linux Kernel:
FW Image from 0xa2020000, to 0x80100000, size=0x405086
Audio FW:
FW Image from 0xa2440000, to 0x81b00000, size=0x1c9328
Video FW:
FW Image from 0xa2620000, to 0x81d80000, size=0x236970
PAL logo
5280Go 5280Go go 0x80100000 rootfstype=yaffs2 root=31:01 mtdparts=rtk_nand:17740
8k,30592k(/),40960k(/usr/local/etc),13184k
Reset Ethernet Mac.


Address = 0x80100000

Realtek LINUX (DC ALIAS) started...
Venus setting:
ROSs have 2621440 bytes RAM.
System CPU has 2 UARTs.
System CPU uses external timer interrupt.
Bootloader version: 0000.0202.0016. This version string is of new format
.
The information of this board: Company ID:0x0 CPU ID: 0x12 Board I
D: 0x202
Ethernet Mac address: 00.16.67.02.18.45
Model Config length=0
Base year of RTC is 2010.
Config serial console: console=ttyS0,115200n8r
prom_flashsize = 0x100000
Linux version 2.6.12.6-VENUS (root@localhost.localdomain) (gcc version 3.4.4 mip
ssde-6.03.00-20051020) #3 Wed Feb 16 09:52:51 CST 2011
audio addr: 1b00000
CPU revision is: 00019378
Determined physical RAM map:
memory: 00100000 @ 00000000 (usable)
memory: 00423000 @ 00100000 (reserved)
memory: 015dd000 @ 00523000 (usable)
memory: 00500000 @ 01b00000 (reserved)
memory: 06000000 @ 02000000 (usable)
show info: max_low_pfn:32768
show info: min_low_pfn:1315
ZONE: DMA, PFN: 0
ZONE: DVR, PFN: 8192
Built 1 zoneli
Kernel command line: rootfstype=yaffs2 root=31:01 mtdparts=rtk_nand:177408k,3059
2k(/),40960k(/usr/local/etc),13184k console=ttyS0,115200n8r ip=192.168.0.9::192.
168.0.254:255.0.0.0:::
Primary instruction cache 32kB, physically tagged, 4-way, linesize 32 bytes.
Primary data cache 32kB, 4-way, linesize 32 bytes.
Synthesized TLB refill handler (20 instructions).
Synthesized TLB load handler fastpath (32 instructions).
Synthesized TLB store handler fastpath (32 instructions).
Synthesized TLB modify handler fastpat
Cache parity protection disabled
PID hash table entries: 256 (order: 8, 4096 bytes)
Estimate value: CPU frequency 405.01 MHz
Using 27.000 MHz high precision timer.
Console: colour dummy device 80x25
Dentry cache hash table entries: 8192 (order: 3, 32768 bytes)
Inode-cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 2, 16384 bytes)
Memory: 119552k/121716k available (3396k kernel code, 2112k reserved, 576k data,
144k init, 0k highmem)
Warning! Unknown board id.
==================== Warning! The calculated loops_per_jiffy is
he default one. ====================
Mount-cache hash table entries: 512
Checking for 'wait' instruction... available.
========== board id: 202 ==========
[INFO] neptune mode...
boot_param value: a0002800
mode: -2094792668
size: 805857284
color1: 0x818204c2
color2: 0xe391a488
color3: 0x8034e11
color4: 0x2e8449ae
NET: Registered protocol family 16
SCSI subsystem initialized
usbcore: registered new driver usbfs
usbcore: registered new driver hub
se init module major number = 254
size of RPC_POLL_Dev 52 and RPC_INTR_D
[user land] CmdBuf virt addr = 80658000/a0658000, phy addr=00658000
Hello, Realtek TLB Mapper
AllocBP size: 294912 order: 7
<<<DVR FREE AREA>>>
0: 0
1: 0
2: 0
3: 0
4: 0
5: 0
6: 0
7: 0
8: 0
9: 0
10: 0
11: 0
12: 6
Addr: 87000000, order: 12
Addr: 86000000, order: 12
Addr: 85000000, order: 12
Addr: 84000000, order: 12
Addr: 83000000, order: 12
Addr: 82000000, order: 12
squashfs: version 3.1 (2006/08/19) Phillip Lougher
de

[Audio Firmware Version] 337460
[Binary src compiled at] Oct 12 2010 16:31:09

vfs: 2004-01-31 Richard Gooch (rgooch@atnf.csiro.au)
devfs: boot_options: 0x1


Continues here 502

Can anyone help me.

Thanks

aasoror
04-27-2011, 07:10 PM
I connected everything, installed drivers etc but my ESC key is not picking up so I used my cursor to call manually while pressing the PBO's power button and this is what i got in the Hyper Terminal

Did you try switching TX with GND ?

brujay
04-27-2011, 07:16 PM
Did you try switching TX with GND ?

Im trying that now, nothing happens so i manually press Call and it says "Unable to Open COM3. Please check your port settings"

Thanks for your quick reply

aasoror
04-27-2011, 09:46 PM
Im trying that now, nothing happens so i manually press Call and it says "Unable to Open COM3. Please check your port settings"

Thanks for your quick reply

Is your adapter USB powered ? does have 3 wires as the picture you posted earlier ?
Are you sure about the port settings ? if the adapter is USB powered you should be able to open the com port without even being connected to the PBO.

If not then you might want to check that post:


4. Now it's the tricky part. In first post, this step is called "holding the Esc key switch the PBO on". The purpose of this is to keep sending ESC to COM then PBO before anything starts to call Realtek Rom Monitor. It suits those cables that can create a COM before PBO powers on, so that ESC can be sent to PBO before anything starts. While in my case, The COM3 is unavailable for HyperTerminal when PBO is off. COM3 is available only after PBO is on. It seems it's mission impossible to send ESC to COM3 before PBO starts, until I figured it out by accident. You need to follow these step:
Power on PBO
Run HyperTerminal and connect to PBO
Power off PBO
Now try to press ESC and power on PBO as the same time with each of your hand, give several tries till it works. It will.

aasoror
04-27-2011, 09:58 PM
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This output is trash, you will get that when you connected RX of the PBO to the GND of the adapter.
Try rewiring and see if that fixes your issue.

brujay
04-27-2011, 10:01 PM
Is your adapter USB powered ? does have 3 wires as the picture you posted earlier ?
Are you sure about the port settings ? if the adapter is USB powered you should be able to open the com port without even being connected to the PBO.

Yes its the same one that i bought.

My Current Setup is
Orange = GND
Blue = RX
Red = TX

Tried even interchanging them, but the above works only when I manually press Call and Power on the PBO I get those messages and it stops at "RTK rtc cannot work." etc

But before that I did get to the part to transfer the boot file and selected the boot 27 file with "Ymodem-G protocol" it took very long and it was unsuccessful.

Which left me with this problem.

It's not recognizing the Escape Key I guess

brujay
04-27-2011, 11:15 PM
I Tried


Power on PBO
Run HyperTerminal and connect to PBO
Power off PBO
Now try to press ESC and power on PBO as the same time with each of your hand, give several tries till it works. It will.

but no luck :(

I removed all the cables from PBO and tried connecting again thru HT and it showed Connected and then I put the cables on like this

RED = GND
ORANGE = TX
BLUE = RX

Then in HT I pressed the ESP Key and Some Invalid characters appeared like the image below.

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and then I tried powering on with the ESP Key still pressed but nothing happens :confused:

aasoror
04-28-2011, 12:15 AM
Then in HT I pressed the ESP Key and Some Invalid characters appeared like the image below.


RX (on the PBO) is now grounded in your second setup (the trash output).
Apparently whatever setup that you was able you use to send the file is the correct one, perhaps you needed to change the COM port speed for a smoother file transfer.

frankenberrie
04-29-2011, 02:09 PM
I have to place a newegg order today... will this work for the bootcode update cable? Thanks

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812186105&cm_re=usb_to_serial-_-12-186-105-_-Product

snappy46
04-29-2011, 04:44 PM
I have to place a newegg order today... will this work for the bootcode update cable? Thanks

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812186105&cm_re=usb_to_serial-_-12-186-105-_-Product

I believe that this will probably work since it is use to connect serial devices to a USB port but there isn't much info on the description so I can not be 100% sure but if I was to make a guess based on the information available I would say yes.

aasoror
04-29-2011, 05:37 PM
I believe that this will probably work since it is use to connect serial devices to a USB port but there isn't much info on the description so I can not be 100% sure but if I was to make a guess based on the information available I would say yes.

Its indeed the correct chip, that said, how is he going to connect the DB9 output of the cable to the serial pins on the PBO, I would still recommend going with the Nokia cable or one of the pre-builts linked couple of posts above.

temamix
04-29-2011, 06:42 PM
This output is trash, you will get that when you connected RX of the PBO to the GND of the adapter.
Try rewiring and see if that fixes your issue.

solved the problem by using sw3, thank you, please tell me there is a possibility ip tv,?
if so, where you can see and read
we say that, yes, but nobody knows how:)

jcowles
05-07-2011, 05:36 AM
Not sure what to do next
I inherited a PBO, that would only boot with the logo
I thought it was a bad flash
I followed your steps
purchased a ca-42 cable (bm06083281)
cable had the pin out of HDbuster (yellow: not in use, red: VCC, black: GND, blue: Rx, white: Tx)
Installed the drivers that came with the cable
Shows up as a Nokia ca-42 usb (com3) in device manager
Set the port as 115200, 8,none,1,none
Unfortunately, this port only shows up with the PBO powered up
System that I am attached to is an older PC - windows xp sp3
setup hyper-terminal
Emulation is tty
8,none,1,none

When I connect - I can see it post
Leds in the front light up - except the one labeled usb1

I see this:
VFS: Mounted root (yaffs2 filesystem) readonly.
Mounted devfs on /dev
Freeing prom memory: 0kb freed
Reclaim bootloader memory from 80020000 to 80100000
Freeing unused kernel memory: 144k freed
Welcome to Realtek Linux

Please press Enter to activate this console. ------flush priority: 10
flush_page_cache: do flush...
------flush priority: 10
flush_page_cache: do flush.
and so on,

Then I get this
watchdog test pid 191, threshold: 50
on and on

I have looked through the post
I've tried moving around the connects - reversed TX/RX

I've tried multiple times hitting ESC while I power up
Hold escape before power
Hit enter while I power up
powering the system up, launching hyper-terminal, connect, power the system down
power the system up, and pressing esc

in those case I get a flashing cursor in hyper-terminal and nothing else


Does anyone have any suggestions, before I punt this into the landfill

aasoror
05-07-2011, 06:04 AM
Does anyone have any suggestions, before I punt this into the landfill
Your cable is serially powered, since you apparently tried HDbuster's tricks and it didn't work, the only other thing that might work for you is this

If your cable is not recognized when the pbo is off, please read for the solution.

First of all, get a remote(I used remote because it already had serial batteries so I just used two cables from + and - to get power) with two aaa, or aa batteries (I used aa so I do not know if it works with aaa)

connect the + (from batteries) from the batteries to the red wire,
and - (from batteries) to the black wire.

When you plug in the cable it should be recignized now without connecting the PBO.

white from cable - goes to white in first post.
blue from cable - goes to the green at the first post.

Also connect a wire to the ground ttl of the PBO (black on the first post) and connect the other end to the - of the batteries (so they have common ground)


You PBO can be salvaged, you just need to fix that cable issue.

jcowles
05-08-2011, 04:32 AM
Thanks for the help! getting power to the cable did the trick. I didn't use the batteries from the remote - I had a 90 cent led flashlight that had a removable 3 aaa battery back. I put bootcode 27 reset the system, and erased the firmware. Now everything is back up. Should have asked for help sooner instead of wasting 3 nights. But now I am going to try some of the more interesting roms, since I know have the tools to get it back to a ready state.

Again THANKS!!!!

aasoror
05-08-2011, 06:01 PM
Thanks for the help! getting power to the cable did the trick.
Thanks for the update,
Enjoy your PBO.

Anakie
05-11-2011, 01:57 PM
I recently decided to upgrade my PBO from BC16-P61 to BC18-P70R2.
But now every time I start my PBO it asks me to format my HDD before going to the main menu.
I also did erase the old P61 firmware using the erase-m code to remove it before booting up
with BC18 and installing the P70R2 firmware.

Is this a common problem or did do something wrong?

aasoror
05-11-2011, 04:45 PM
I recently decided to upgrade my PBO from BC16-P61 to BC18-P70R2.
But now every time I start my PBO it asks me to format my HDD before going to the main menu.
I also did erase the old P61 firmware using the erase-m code to remove it before booting up
with BC18 and installing the P70R2 firmware.

Is this a common problem or did do something wrong?

No you didn't do anything wrong, did you ever formate the HDD using the PBO interface ?
There is no workaround for it but to let the PBO formate the HDD.

catalin70
06-13-2011, 04:38 PM
hello , I have a Q?
CA-53 cable is not compatible with CA-42 ?
I try to use this one ( i find one in the house) and i can't install the driver for it ( i use win7 /64)
TKS

aasoror
06-13-2011, 04:50 PM
CA-53 cable is not compatible with CA-42 ?

No its not compatible.

DenisM
06-20-2011, 11:25 PM
Just to check If I could access the Realtek monitor, i got this from China:

http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv22/Anchises/MyAdapter.jpg

I had problems with XP recognising the usb device - intermittent failures etc.... and clearly not connecting..
On close inspection of the device, I noticed that the two centre pins of the USB connector were inserted in the PCB , but *not soldered* in place. Obviously an intermittent dissconnect. I soldered both and now it's rock solid ! :) No problem getting the Realtek intro screen to come up.
I advise this, since earlier posts mentioned some erratic responses with various devices.

I do notice that the Esc key sometimes is trapped too late and it takes a bit of fancy finger work to get it to stop scrolling away on switch on.

Now I know I can access it, I might be brave enough to try other firmwares :)

Wiring:

Vdd < - > Vcc
Gnd < - > Gnd
Rx < - > Tx
Tx < - > Rx

3.3V jumpered

DenisM

aasoror
06-21-2011, 12:10 AM
Now I know I can access it, I might be brave enough to try other firmwares :)


Go ahead by all means, now that you have acknowledged the might of the firmware Gods, you (most probably) wont end up using the cable ever :)

Lukaslouw
06-26-2011, 12:34 PM
I have managed to brick my PBO, and after finding this thread, ordered the cable, so will attempt to unbrick once the cable arrives.
What is the latest stable bootcode and firmware versions that I should use?
Thanks :)

aasoror
06-26-2011, 03:27 PM
I have managed to brick my PBO, and after finding this thread, ordered the cable, so will attempt to unbrick once the cable arrives.
What is the latest stable bootcode and firmware versions that I should use?
Thanks :)

bc27 is the latest bootcode.
And for recovery I recommend starting with P02 (official firmware) then move on afterwards to the firmware of your choice.

gator99
06-26-2011, 11:30 PM
Quick question, decided to try to update my bootcode, wiring seems to be fine and connection thru hyperterminal seems to be ok, however, when I execute "load -b asc://tty0 0x80100000" all I get is this (see attached) - going on 15.5 minutes.



What have I done wrong?



EDIT - Looks like I bricked it, so I guess I need to learn how to unbrick it -- I assume I start here:

http://www.patriotmemory.com/forums/showthread.php?3060-Bootcode-update-step-by-step-process

aasoror
06-27-2011, 12:38 AM
Quick question, decided to try to update my bootcode, wiring seems to be fine and connection thru hyperterminal seems to be ok, however, when I execute "load -b asc://tty0 0x80100000" all I get is this (see attached) - going on 15.5 minutes.



What have I done wrong?


Nothing you should have started sending the file from the menus.

Right from the OP


When you get the message to dump the file, transfer the bootcode bin file to the PBO using the Ymodem-G protocol (from the Transfer menu)

tscherni
07-04-2011, 10:38 AM
Hi!

First thank you very much for your help here for those who bricked their players like me! :)

I have the broken Asus HD2 and a USB/Serial Cable connected. I know my connector (rx,tx,gnd) but tried to find the right pins at the box. I used your introduction ... could find the GNX from the box, because I recieved many spaces within seconds. then I tried combinations from my TX+RX with box PINS until I could recieve letters I sent via my TX (trough the box..) .. so I think that 3 PINS must be correct. After reboot I got a correct boot-display with Realtek-prompt... But after every letter I press/send I get of course this letter displayed in hyperterminal, but two new line feeds as well. So I cann't complete any command!

see copy:
Realtek> z
Realtek>
Realtek> r
Realtek>
Realtek> d
Realtek>
(I just pressed "ZRD"!)

What's wrong there? I didn't used the 4th PIN from the box.

freeteh
07-04-2011, 09:58 PM
Hello!
I would like to know where is the ESC button on my PBO

Please help.
Thank you.

snappy46
07-05-2011, 12:28 AM
Hello!
I would like to know where is the ESC button on my PBO

Please help.
Thank you.

You need to press the ESC key on your PC Keyboard not on the PBO.

freeteh
07-05-2011, 08:20 PM
I have a new CA-42 cable and it works.

New Bootcode 27 works very well
Thank you for your help.

aasoror
07-05-2011, 08:24 PM
I have a new CA-42 cable and it works.

New Bootcode 27 works very well
Thank you for your help.

No problem ..
Enjoy your PBO.

aasoror
07-07-2011, 06:11 PM
Hi!

First thank you very much for your help here for those who bricked their players like me! :)

I have the broken Asus HD2 and a USB/Serial Cable connected. I know my connector (rx,tx,gnd) but tried to find the right pins at the box. I used your introduction ... could find the GNX from the box, because I recieved many spaces within seconds. then I tried combinations from my TX+RX with box PINS until I could recieve letters I sent via my TX (trough the box..) .. so I think that 3 PINS must be correct. After reboot I got a correct boot-display with Realtek-prompt... But after every letter I press/send I get of course this letter displayed in hyperterminal, but two new line feeds as well. So I cann't complete any command!

see copy:
Realtek> z
Realtek>
Realtek> r
Realtek>
Realtek> d
Realtek>
(I just pressed "ZRD"!)

What's wrong there? I didn't used the 4th PIN from the box.

Not sure what might be the reason, but I would say the cable might be defective.

anshley
07-07-2011, 07:55 PM
Hi,
I am trying to update the boot code. But boot code transfer halts after sending some bytes, finally HT gives error like no response from remote system.
Timer at the bottom of HT keeps running.

Any idea what might be wrong?

aasoror
07-08-2011, 01:57 AM
Hi,
I am trying to update the boot code. But boot code transfer halts after sending some bytes, finally HT gives error like no response from remote system.
Timer at the bottom of HT keeps running.

Any idea what might be wrong?

Make sure that the cable is secured on the pins.
Might want to decrease the port speed settings for more reliable connection.

kujain
07-11-2011, 03:09 AM
Thank you for this information. I have to try this on my bricked device. I was not able to find a CA-42 cable, but do have a nokia CA-53 cable (that came with an older 9300i phone). Could you pl let me know if this cable can do the job as well?

Thanks very much!

aasoror
07-11-2011, 07:13 AM
Thank you for this information. I have to try this on my bricked device. I was not able to find a CA-42 cable, but do have a nokia CA-53 cable (that came with an older 9300i phone). Could you pl let me know if this cable can do the job as well?

Thanks very much!

Nope it wont.
only CA-42 or a DKU-5 would work.

Lukaslouw
07-11-2011, 09:53 PM
I had bricked my PBO, so ordered the cable and attempted loading bootcodes as per instructions. Everything seems to work as described with the Hyperterminal instructions.
Bootcode 18 only results in a flashing white bar top of the screen.
Bootcode 27 will briefly flash "PBO Core" and then say "Cannot boot from HDD" Interestingly enough, still with bootcode 27, if I set up with Hyperterminal & the cable again to load a bootcode, and powering up the PBI while holding down ESC, it will display "PBO Core", without the "Cannot boot from HDD" message.
Am I doing anything wrong?

Thanks,
Lukas

Lukaslouw
07-11-2011, 10:34 PM
Never mind - it finally dawned on me that I need to put the frimware onto a USB drive. It loaded the firmware fine after a power dowen, and USB drive inserted, then powering up.
A great big fat thanks for this thread :)

truefad
07-24-2011, 11:50 AM
Hello.
I have analog of PBO - Iconbit HDS6L. This device have another brand , but MCB and another parts is equivalent.
When i try to flash player from USB, firmware is down. Now, then power is on, picture on screen is "frozen" ("Iconbit" logo shows). USB - Ports not working.
I'm try to update\recovery firmware from hyperterminal and j1-connector (6-pin) like instructions upper. I have DKU-5 cable and Convertor RS-232 to TTL (Motorola RLN4008B). I can't recover\update firmware from service-port :( . Maybe pin-outs different or i'm do anything not correctly.
MCB photos:
http://vkontakte.ru/photo2212731_264518668
http://vkontakte.ru/photo2212731_264518669
Please help me.

ljyx123
08-24-2011, 02:29 AM
Hey aasoror!

Thank you for all your help in posting this wonderful guide!

I just unbricked my PBO following exactly your instructions!

I used this cable here and the wiring was the exactly the same as your's:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290425651135&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_2312wt_882

I used the win7 drivers that you posted as well.

Thank you so much (and everyone else who posted in this thread) and now I'm able to enjoy all my shows again!

EDIT: Also, for some reason, the connectors on my PBO where not protruding pins, but "holes" that I needed to stick the usb/ttl wires in. Therefore, I needed to solder the wires to some pins and stick them into the PBO slot. Hopefully no one else will be caught by surprise.

You're the best!
ljyx123

aasoror
08-25-2011, 10:08 AM
No problem ljyx123.
Enjoy your unbrickable PBO :)


Hey aasoror!

Thank you for all your help in posting this wonderful guide!

I just unbricked my PBO following exactly your instructions!

I used this cable here and the wiring was the exactly the same as your's:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290425651135&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_2312wt_882

I used the win7 drivers that you posted as well.

Thank you so much (and everyone else who posted in this thread) and now I'm able to enjoy all my shows again!

You're the best!
ljyx123

muffinb
08-26-2011, 01:52 PM
aasoror: Where can I find boot code 27. You have posted it several times on this forum, but every time I click on the here selection that you posted I get a 404 can't find or something like that. As a matter of fact I can't seem to locate any of the boot codes .
Thanks in advance

tourist
08-26-2011, 02:55 PM
aasoror: Where can I find boot code 27. You have posted it several times on this forum, but every time I click on the here selection that you posted I get a 404 can't find or something like that. As a matter of fact I can't seem to locate any of the boot codes .
Thanks in advance

I have no problem in download it from this sticky thread. (http://www.patriotmemory.com/forums/showthread.php?3683-Bootcode-downloads-for-update)

muffinb
08-26-2011, 03:56 PM
Thank you tourist, that worked great. Again, Thank you.

tourist
08-26-2011, 04:17 PM
Thank you tourist, that worked great. Again, Thank you.


You are welcome. Many of the old links in the forum are not working since the forum upgrade and address change several months ago.

ljyx123
08-27-2011, 06:41 PM
No problem ljyx123.
Enjoy your unbrickable PBO :)

Actually, I just remembered that when I was testing my cable with a multimeter, the green line showed a constant voltage of 3.3v, and the red and white lines show no voltage.

Pardon my ignorance, but I've always thought that the VCC line carried the voltage, but the green line is the RXD line?? :confused:

Thanks

canadave
08-30-2011, 06:44 PM
Obviously, the Nokia CA-42 is not the best cable for this. I bought one and it is PBO powered rather than USB powered...I tried the trick with PowerOn PBO, run Hyperterminal, PowerOff PBO, Hold ESC, PowerOn PBO...it doesn't work. It does let me connect direct and issue linux commands in the midst of the irritating "watchdog test pid 184, threshold: 50" continuous loop. It might work if you could issue a linux command that causes PBO to reboot, then hold the ESC key but I don't know how to do that...maybe kill the root process with the KILL command?

Any suggestions for a USB Powered cable?...it would save a lot of hassles.

Question: Why can I not just get an old fashioned RS-232 serial cable to connect that way instead of all this USB crap?

snappy46
08-30-2011, 07:14 PM
Obviously, the Nokia CA-42 is not the best cable for this. I bought one and it is PBO powered rather than USB powered...I tried the trick with PowerOn PBO, run Hyperterminal, PowerOff PBO, Hold ESC, PowerOn PBO...it doesn't work. It does let me connect direct and issue linux commands in the midst of the irritating "watchdog test pid 184, threshold: 50" continuous loop. It might work if you could issue a linux command that causes PBO to reboot, then hold the ESC key but I don't know how to do that...maybe kill the root process with the KILL command?

Any suggestions for a USB Powered cable?...it would save a lot of hassles.


Actually the Nokia CA-42 does come with a USB Powered cable in some cases. Unfortunately you can not really tell went you order it if it is or not. I oredered mine from DealExtreme (CA-42) and it did came with USB powered hence I only need to connect 3 wires to the PBO vs 4. That being said it does not really matter the 4 wires one also works fine for some people. Have you tried to leave the power on the PBO (Main switch in the back on) and then using the remote to turn on the PBO; that might help ????



Question: Why can I not just get an old fashioned RS-232 serial cable to connect that way instead of all this USB crap?

Voltage output of a standard RS232 port is not compatible with the expected TTL logic inputs of the PBO:

Standard RS232 typical voltage: -12 to +12 volts (logic 0, logic 1) and sometimes even more.
PBO RS232 TTL typical voltage: 0 to +3.3 Volts (logic 0, logic 1)

Therefore connecting directly a standard RS232 port/serial cable to your PBO is a sure way to fry it.

canadave
08-30-2011, 07:18 PM
Thanks for the heads up on the RS-232 voltages :)

I didn't try using the remote...I'll give it a whirl

canadave
08-30-2011, 07:39 PM
It worked!...when the red power light is on meaning the unit is off, there is still power to the cable so you can connect with your terminal software...then hold ESC and power on with the remote control.

Thanks Snappy :)

snappy46
08-30-2011, 07:54 PM
It worked!...when the red power light is on meaning the unit is off, there is still power to the cable so you can connect with your terminal software...then hold ESC and power on with the remote control.

Thanks Snappy :)

Glad this worked for you.

Cheers !!!

canadave
08-31-2011, 01:21 AM
Just FYI to the thread...I installed the Nokia CA-42 cable on Windows 7 64 bit...Windows did the hardware detect thing and downloaded and installed its own drivers for it (after I powered up PBO with cable connected)...it shows as a modem in Device Manager. The modem uses COM3 on mine but might be a different COM port on someone else's. When you go to connect with Hyperterminal or PuTTY, you choose the COM port your CA-42 is using, not the modem, in my case that was COM3 (you can see what COM port it's using by going Properties on the modem in Device Manager).

Anyway, with Windows 7 64 bit, you don't need to download the Nokia drivers.

muffinb
09-09-2011, 09:25 PM
I just got my parts today and the cable was just like the one in the original post. The only problem, my PBO circuit board had a female connector instead of the male connector that all of the pictures showed. I jury rigged it but everything I bought except the CA-42 cable was wrong. I needed a male connector instead of a female connector. Anyone else find this to be true. Oh by the way, was able to flash just like I was supposed to be able to. Thanks for all the help.
It was just the opposite of this. Sorry about the small picture.

aasoror
09-10-2011, 05:21 AM
Some newer units have female serial port connectors.
You can use this (http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-x-40-Pin-2-54-mm-Single-Row-Pin-Header-Strip-PCB-/180705157898?_trksid=p4340.m185&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC.NPJS%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUA%26o tn%3D5%26pmod%3D280526377228%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D2 674121752599188145#ht_962wt_905)($1.75 shipped) to get around your issue.


I just got my parts today and the cable was just like the one in the original post. The only problem, my PBO circuit board had a female connector instead of the male connector that all of the pictures showed. I jury rigged it but everything I bought except the CA-42 cable was wrong. I needed a male connector instead of a female connector. Anyone else find this to be true. Oh by the way, was able to flash just like I was supposed to be able to. Thanks for all the help.
It was just the opposite of this. Sorry about the small picture.

tourist
09-10-2011, 03:19 PM
I just cut some 1 cm pins from paper clips and use that as connectors between the 2 female ends.

andytx
09-10-2011, 11:24 PM
Hi,
I need help to unbrick my pbo
Today, While used PBO to watching movies, then I Swapped HDMI cable, Video doesn't came on.
I switched off the PBO , turn back on, The LED of PBO are:
Power LED: on
LAN cable LED: Flashing GREEN to RED Color , Versa
HDD LED : Flashing.
I tried Serial cable: VCC =Connected to laptop usb port 5V
The Hyper: screen Came up and and it keep running never stop
here the pic: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/821/unledagg.png/

tourist
09-11-2011, 03:30 AM
I tried Serial cable: VCC =Connected to laptop usb port 5V
The Hyper: screen Came up and and it keep running never stop

Hold down Esc when you turn on (or plug in) the power.

andytx
09-11-2011, 04:15 AM
does not work,
the hyper screen is keep running

andytx
09-12-2011, 02:08 PM
assor,
Do you have any idea to fix my PBO box?

thanks

tourist
09-12-2011, 02:12 PM
Check your wires and connections. I am using some pins to connect the USB-TTL cable to the newer version of PBO. Sometimes the connection is not good and it will show the same non-stop message in hyperterminal. I have to turn it off, reconnect the pins and cable to get it to work.

andytx
09-12-2011, 03:05 PM
question: in PBP board, There are 2 are have TTL connection,
and I used one on the side near the fan, My board no respond to any key board press :(

tourist
09-12-2011, 03:57 PM
Go back to the first page of this thread and make sure you have wires in the correct order. I am using a 3-wire version, so I have no vcc and leave the second pin empty.

andytx
09-12-2011, 05:09 PM
No Input Vcc require? The Second pin you meant VCC?

tourist
09-12-2011, 05:22 PM
No Input Vcc require? The Second pin you meant VCC?

Yes. My USB-TTL cable is the 3-wire version and has no vcc.

andytx
09-12-2011, 07:10 PM
Would you take image shot of your TTL board?
I can not believed it, any Eprom or Flash memory need Voltage to turn on.
Or
The Flash memory got vcc from AC adapter when plug in.

snappy46
09-12-2011, 07:16 PM
Would you take image shot of your TTL board?
I can not believed it, any Eprom or Flash memory need Voltage to turn on.
Or
The Flash memory got vcc from AC adapter when plug in.

My cable also only has 3 wires: rx, tx, gnd. The cable with 4 wires uses the power of the PBO to power up the circuit inside the cable (TTL converter) the one with only 3 wires use the power of the USB port power (+5Vdc) to power up that same circuit. Your PBO must be connect to the wall socket and turn on when you are doing this whether you have the 3 or 4 wires adapters.

Hope this clarify your doubts.

Cheers !!!

EDIT: Just to add a little bit, the VCC connection (RS232 TTL teerminal) on the PBO is an output (+5Vdc) not an input.

andytx
09-12-2011, 07:38 PM
I will try when I got home. Now I'm at work

andytx
09-12-2011, 08:17 PM
without VCC , Nothing on Hyper,

andytx
09-13-2011, 02:39 AM
Is this IC got damage?
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/221/unledcjfmi.png/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/221/unledcjfmi.png/

snappy46
09-13-2011, 02:43 AM
Is this IC got damage?
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/221/unledcjfmi.png/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/221/unledcjfmi.png/

Don't know, have you tried to make all your connection required and then press the ESC key and then turn on the PBO last to see if you can finally get into the yam monitor.

andytx
09-13-2011, 03:19 AM
I have TTL IC 232, and VCC from USB port here is my TTL Image circuit, I do not know if it will work on PBO, but it worked on diff device, http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/198/max232.jpg/
Connected to PBO:
PBO pin TTL pin
VCC VCC
GND GND
Tx Tx
Rx Rx
I got SCreen keep scrolling, ESC key press do nothing.
If I do not connect VCC pin, Nothing came to screen
My PBO Lan LED keep flashing red/green. and HD Smal blinking

tourist
09-13-2011, 12:41 PM
The pin order should be:
GND
VCC
Tx
Rx

Did you check the phone adapter end that you cut out to verify the wires for GND, Tx, and Rx? Just check which color of wire connected to the pins for GND, Tx, and Rx. There is a picture of it early on this thread.
It seems you are not using a CA-42 cable and it is using a different chip. I am not sure if that is the problem.

snappy46
09-13-2011, 01:27 PM
I have TTL IC 232, and VCC from USB port here is my TTL Image circuit, I do not know if it will work on PBO, but it worked on diff device, http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/198/max232.jpg/
Connected to PBO:
PBO pin TTL pin
VCC VCC
GND GND
Tx Tx
Rx Rx
I got SCreen keep scrolling, ESC key press do nothing.
If I do not connect VCC pin, Nothing came to screen
My PBO Lan LED keep flashing red/green. and HD Smal blinking

A few things do not make sense to me about your MAX232 schematic, for what I can understand you actually using an actual RS232 connector on your PC to achieve this not a USB port ..... right???

OK things that do not look right to me:

- You have the ground from the RS232 connected to the + positive side of C4 Electrolite Capacitor which would be ok if you actually had a negative voltage connected to pin 6; which you should.
- You do not have any Voltage source (VS) connected typically +8.5 Vdc on pin 2 and -8.5 Vdc on pin 6; you need those voltages to drive the RS232 port on your PC -8 to +8 volt; typical voltage for standard RS 232 is -12 to +12 Volts but will usually work for voltages as low as -5 to +5 volts.

Anyhow I do not have all the specific on your setup so I could be wrong here but I don't think I am.

You might just want to save you all the trouble and invest in the CA-42 Nokia cable.

Cheers !!!

muffinb
09-13-2011, 06:13 PM
Actually tourist, that is what I ended up doing, until I bought the correct adapters. Worked great.

muffinb
09-13-2011, 06:15 PM
I just cut some 1 cm pins from paper clips and use that as connectors between the 2 female ends.

Actually Tourist, that is what I did originally until I got the right adapters. Worked great. Oops, sorry about the double post.

andytx
09-14-2011, 02:16 AM
I Got another TTL cable with unknown chip.
This Time without VCC and it Got hyper screen scrolling same as before,
during it scrolling, I remove RX wire, and it still scrolling like that,.
Would anyone confirm it for me (samething I did remove Rx wire).
I just want to know if the PBO or good before I purchase the Ca-42 online, Local store does not have those cable. :(

Thanks

muffinb
09-16-2011, 01:22 PM
I Got another TTL cable with unknown chip.
This Time without VCC and it Got hyper screen scrolling same as before,
during it scrolling, I remove RX wire, and it still scrolling like that,.
Would anyone confirm it for me (samething I did remove Rx wire).
I just want to know if the PBO or good before I purchase the Ca-42 online, Local store does not have those cable. :(

Thanks

You're only talking about a couple of bucks. Order the cable and then see what happens. Why make it hard?

andytx
09-17-2011, 06:04 AM
shipping take to long to arrived.

I could buy this player
TViX XROID A1

tourist
09-17-2011, 02:06 PM
shipping take to long to arrived.


That's why I ordered my cable months before I need to use it. ;-)

andytx
09-26-2011, 01:30 AM
here are cables ,prcing at sears: the price so crazy from $65 and up to 200
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_SPM3198189602P?prdNo=1&blockNo=1&blockType=G1

tourist
09-26-2011, 02:07 AM
Have you tried Amazon? It seems you can get one shipped within 2 days for a lot less.

aasoror
09-26-2011, 03:33 AM
here are cables ,prcing at sears: the price so crazy from $65 and up to 200
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_SPM3198189602P?prdNo=1&blockNo=1&blockType=G1

Seriously, you already have spent 12 days looking around rather than spending them waiting for cable to be delivered from HK, it only takes couple of weeks any way (sometimes less), it would have been only a day or two away now had you ordered on the 13th (when you first posted about the subject).

andytx
09-26-2011, 04:38 AM
ok,
I just placed ordered on ebay, http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Data-Cable-Nokia-6101-6102-6102i-6103-CA-42-/200353624748?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2ea601b2ac

I hope it can fix my PBO.

andytx
10-02-2011, 05:51 AM
I got my Ca-42 cables today, and it had 3 wires output
1: Green=Rx
2:Blue= Gnd
3:Black = Tx
then, hyper screen still scrolling like before with my old ttl cable,

aasoror
10-02-2011, 06:12 AM
Your Rx is fine because you can see output.
Did you try switching Tx with Gnd (assuming GND is black isn't far fetched either).
Best of luck,


I got my Ca-42 cables today, and it had 3 wires output
1: Green=Rx
2:Blue= Gnd
3:Black = Tx
then, hyper screen still scrolling like before with my old ttl cable,

andytx
10-02-2011, 05:41 PM
Yes, I was thought Black suppose to be GND but it was not GND.

aasoror
10-02-2011, 06:46 PM
OK so a small sanity test, if you twist Rx and Tx together do you see an echo of whatever you type on the screen ? (no PBO involved).


Yes, I was thought Black suppose to be GND but it was not GND.

andytx
10-02-2011, 09:38 PM
yes,
1: Green=Rx & black=Tx is shortted together, and I seen whatever I type.
2:white=gnd &green is shorted together, and nothing seen when I type
3: white &black is shorted together, and seen this square dot and funny characters when press any key
Beside, I tested both previous TTL and this TTL on router are worked fine.

aasoror
10-02-2011, 09:50 PM
Thats puzzling, when do you exactly press the "ESC" button ?

yes,
1: Green=Rx & black=Tx is shortted together, and I seen whatever I type.
2:white=gnd &green is shorted together, and nothing seen when I type
3: white &black is shorted together, and seen this square dot and funny characters when press any key
Beside, I tested both previous TTL and this TTL on router are worked fine.

andytx
10-02-2011, 10:47 PM
Press and hold before plugin power or switch power on.
perhap, would you do the pc remote to my PC and take a look?
teamviewer?

andytx
10-03-2011, 12:18 AM
I did quick Capacitance on some of caps and they shorted to GND on both end
C170, C310, C299, and more. Caps not suppose to be be Short are they?

snappy46
10-03-2011, 03:00 AM
I did quick Capacitance on some of caps and they shorted to GND on both end
C170, C310, C299, and more. Caps not suppose to be be Short are they?

Capacitor are not shorted to ground but they are hard to check while still in the circuit. It is possible for other component around that circuit to close the path to ground. Here's an example:

|----| C1 |----------------------------> GND
|
|----R2 (small resistance)------> GND

This circuit would give the impression that both side of the capacitor is shorted to GND even though it is not.

You pretty much need an in circuit tester or to remove the capacitor from the board to check it. It is quite unusual for a capacitor to become shorted without leaving some physical sign IE: burn, melt etc...

EDIT: I guess I did not really answer your question: Capacitor should be open while doing resistance check since multimeter uses DC voltage. Capacitor are open to DC voltage but let the Alternative voltage (AC) go from one side to the other based on their capacitance value and the frequency of the signal applied to the capacitor.

andytx
10-03-2011, 04:19 AM
I guess my Pbo can not be fixed. Thanks all.

woodoo
10-07-2011, 06:12 PM
Hello,
Just a quick question.
I happened to find old Siemens DKA-510 data cable in my "recycle bin".

http://pinouts.ru/all/siemens_dca-510_pinout.shtml

It has CP2101 chip inside and works with PL-2303 drivers, but output is 5 v. Can I use it instead of CA-42 or DKU-5?
Thank you in advance.

snappy46
10-07-2011, 07:32 PM
Hello,
Just a quick question.
I happened to find old Siemens DKA-510 data cable in my "recycle bin".

http://pinouts.ru/all/siemens_dca-510_pinout.shtml

It has CP2101 chip inside and works with PL-2303 drivers, but output is 5 v. Can I use it instead of CA-42 or DKU-5?
Thank you in advance.

It might work; it's hard to say but whatever you do; DO NOT connect the power connection P2 pin 1 to the PBO power pin. That pin on the PBO is actually an output not an input. If you decide to try it simply connect the rx, tx and GND.

I will not be held responsible if your PBO goes out in smoke, but I doubt this will happen; I am pretty sure that it might work for you as long as you do not connect the power line to the PBO.

Good luck whatever you decide.

aasoror
10-07-2011, 07:37 PM
True, the VCC pin on the PBO is meant to power up the serial adapter.
If your cable has and output pin don't connect it.
If you mean the cable needs 5v. input power to work it wont, because the PBO can only provide 3.3 volt.


It might work; it's hard to say but whatever you do; DO NOT connect the power connection P2 pin 1 to the PBO power pin. That pin on the PBO is actually an output not an input. If you decide to try it simply connect the rx, tx and GND.

I will not be held responsible if your PBO goes out in smoke, but I doubt this will happen; I am pretty sure that it might work for you as long as you do not connect the power line to the PBO.

Good luck whatever you decide.

woodoo
10-08-2011, 11:43 AM
Thank, You.
My PBO works again after I bricked it thanks stupid mistake during firmare upgrade.
DCA-510 works fine. I've soldered 3 wires:
Black- GND
Orange- TX
Brown- RX


Conected via Hyperterminal without any problems and deleted corrupted firmware image by means of
erase -m
and then recovered firmvare with the FAT 32 USB.
The only surptise was, that I found "female" connector on the PBO side. I expected "male" pins.
Thank you aasoror and snappy46 again.

Good Luck!

snappy46
10-08-2011, 02:07 PM
Thank, You.
My PBO works again after I bricked it thanks stupid mistake during firmare upgrade.
DCA-510 works fine. I've soldered 3 wires:
Black- GND
Orange- TX
Brown- RX


Conected via Hyperterminal without any problems and deleted corrupted firmware image by means of
erase -m
and then recovered firmvare with the FAT 32 USB.
The only surptise was, that I found "female" connector on the PBO side. I expected "male" pins.
Thank you aasoror and snappy46 again.

Good Luck!

Glad this worked for you. Enjoy your PBO it is now pretty much indestructible with that handy cable :).

bombcan
10-11-2011, 10:36 PM
Hi

I just bought my CA-42 however I only have RED, White and Black. I connected the white on TX, the Black on GND and RED on VCC
The hyperterminal just scrolls with a bunch of ...I think errors. Aren't I missing a wire.?

FW Image from 0xa2440000, to 0x81b00000, size=0x1c9328R zone 87000000(80604000)
[rtk_nand_scan_bbt] have created bbt
Video FW:loads it
FW Image from 0xa2620000, to 0x81d80000, size=0x236970mp_BBT] Nand BBT Content_desc_table_v
1. start rema
[0] (0, 19
PAL logo7)5e4000
r280Go 5280Go go 0x80100000 mtdpFAaTAL ERRORcal RAM map:
[2] (0, 205, 0, 2045)sc_table_
Vidteo 337171] (0, 566, 0,
EPC = s 0x=81eabe0r8
4 cmdlinepart partit
aADDR t= 0xk8_1e1naa58rtk_nand0) 2048...= 0x10
CAnUSE = 0xd00:000012787emory:
s
RTK: using dynami
k4CAUSE = 0 0x000000080++ ALLOC index: 12288 o
6 0,x9000003008: 0x1253456789 02xk1234567(8/ 0x1234)567DVR zone 85000000(80

fw_e

1eaaR :
be00: 0xfffff================
Realtek LINUX (fDfC fA L0IAS) started...: 0e 8600000
= MODE: MARS/JUPITER-- FREE
Venus setting: SPD : 100er:
ROSs have 2621440 bytes RAM.ess: 8
start[0-
= TX FIFO DEPTH : 8a
System CPU has 2 UARTs.TH : 8VR zone 85000000(80
= FIF
System CPU uses external timer interruptx.f 3: ON+ ALLOC index: 16896 ord
= NON STOP WRITE : O
f Bootloader version: 0001.0202.0018. This version string is of new format============DVR zone 86200000(805e800
FATAL : I2C 1 pins have been occupied by P
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The information of this board: Company ID:0x1 CPU ID: f0fx1f2f f Bo640 order:
NET: Registered protocol family 2ges: free 1021
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Model Config length=028
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TCP bind hash tab
Base year of RTfCf fis 2010. (3308 pages
= 0xa0a0
Error in
show info: max_low_pfn:32768d devfs on /devn threshold val
show info: min_low_pfn:1315b freed,
WatchDog does not re
ZONE: DMA, PFN: 0ootloader memory
ZONE: DVR, PFN: 8192000000 0x0000000d 0x
Built 1 zonelistsata1: reset phy e
Kernel command line: mtdparts=rtk_nand:177408k,30592k(/),40960k(/usr/local/etc),
RTK rtc cannot work.e: 0
Wat
Welcome to Realtek Linuxgnal for 2 sec
13184k rootfstype=squashfs root=31:01 console=ttyS0,115200n8r ip=192.168.0.9::19hreshold value: 0...00038: 0x00000000 0x00000000 0
WatchDog does not
flush_page
2.168.0.254:255.0.0.0::: 0nductor Corp. - All


Primary instruction cache 32kB, physically tagged, 4-way, linesize 32 bytes..

F
sata phy resetailable com
------flush priority: 10lue: 0...0000 0x00000
Primary data cache 32kB, 4-way, linesize 32 bytes. for 2 seco
------flush priority: 100000000 0x0000
Synthesized TLB refill handler (20 instructionsd value: 0...
[mtdblock_re


==================== Warning! The calculated loops_per_jiffy is not similar to ta phy resetE = t0kx
In
Error in
============================================
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sata1: reset phy aga
Mount-cache hash table entries: 512reset
sata2: r
IN : /tmp/ramfs
Checking for 'wait' instruction... available.10333e40or in threshold value: 0... 440
downlo
========== board id: 10202 ==========receive signal for
CMD: mkdir -p /tmp
[INFO] neptune mode...c4
[DataObjec
In my sy
boot_param value: a0002800 mkdir -p /tmp/smbARS eth
mode: 1T = 0x

size: 1360m...does n
color1: 0x808010config > /tmp/ne
color2: 0x8080eb78 o0x1o234t5678
color3: 0x480040

In my system..
color4: 0x22cc
Warning!! th
8: 0 receive signal f
9: 0e: 056, chip_s
pa
10: 0888
free pages:
11: 0em 3, sector 0

12: 6x1
mount to /tmp/
Addr: 87000000, order: 12udio
file system 1, sector 262144eo FW fo
Addr: 86000000, order: 12
file system 2, sector 1048576 4mp_BBT]
Addr: 85000000, order: 12one DMA 1 0 1 1
Addr: 84000000, order: 120x12 Board I5, 0, 2045)
read len = 0
Addr: 83000000, order: 12 1 00x1620000 0artitions

Addr: 82000000, order: 126970
/hdd/root
1
Node 0, zone
squashfs: version 3.1 (2006/08/19) Phillip Lougher 0 0
Mode

read len = 0x236970R
devfs: 2004-01-31 Richard Gooch (rgooch@atnf.csiro.au) 0 0 5 for RPC ioctl...nsole: console=
free
devfs: boot_options: 0x1.
cached size: 3422
JFFS2 version 2.2. (C) 2001-2003 Red Hat, Inc.0: 20667

c


1. start remap DVR zone 85580000(805cf
s
PPP generic driver version 2.4.25
+++ ALLOC index: 17408 order:
PPP Deflate Compression module registeredremap DVR zone 86400000(805ec000) 256...f
PPP BSD Compression module registeredache h
mar
map_done is 0...41): no cm
NET: Registered protocol family 24: 7ars_sata_work_fn(1172) hot plug
VenusSFC MTD initR zone 86500000(8
cp_hotplug8...moved
serial flash inaccessible).
map_don
physmap flash device: 10000000 at fd00000 17792 order: 7astp
mars_sata_work_fn(117
Realtek NAND Flash Driver Rev:317223 (2010-06-01)28...a device have removed.e handler fastpath (32
One HY27UF082G2B chip has 1 die(s) on boardREE index: 20480 order: 12d
Synthesi
sata
+++ ALLOC index: 16
[dump_BBT] Nand BBT ContentSE = 0x0000000
1. start re
[0] (0, 199, 0, 2047)805e4000) 256...00000
[1] (0, 203, 0, 2046)8: 7s), addr=192.168.
[2] (0, 205, 0, 2045)w=192.16
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start[0-
[3] (0, 566, 0, 2044)04, 7001a508, 7001a50
4 cmdlinepart partitions found on MTD device rtk_nand
end[0-3] = {7001a510, 7001a514, 7001a518,+++ ALLOC
RTK: using dynamic nand partitionex: 12672 order: 7ta,erver=255.25
Creating 4 MTD partitions on "rtk_nand":000000
1. start remap DVR zone 86200000(
0x00000000-0x0ad40000 : "Partition_000"000048: 0x00000000 0x0000
map_done is 0
0x0ad40000-0x0cb20000 : "/"bugMem P+++ ALLOC index: 16
0x0cb20000-0x0f320000 : "/usr/local/etc"000000d

i2c /dev entries driver.col f
No
no more memo
[I2C0] i2c speed changed to 100 KHz008=========ing DD 0x00000002
I2C0 Bus Status Check.... OKC index: 17920 order: 9=====
=========================
1. start remap DVR zone
= VER : 2.1b0000) 512...
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NET: Registered protocol family 17or 2 seconds, value: 0 Memory add
Realtek Venus Power Management, (c) 2006 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.ted.086
===========
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cp_open: 0...h
alloc rings cp->rxdesc_buf =0xa19a7000 , cp->ring_dma=0x19a7000or 2 seconds, value: 0
-=- create FT engine for
init_hwce/uEGB
init_hw finishedld value: 0...xa
IP-Config: Complete: in thr
WatchDog doe
device=eth0, addr=192.168.0.9, mask=255.0.0.0, gw=192.168.0.254,r 2 seconds, value: 0 0x80100
Error in threshold value: 0...
host=192.168.0.9, domain=, nis-domain=(none),al for 2 seconds, value: 0mes/HDD1:
CMD:
YAFF
bootserver=255.255.255.255, rootserver=255.255.255.255, rootpath=
mount t
sata phy reset
file system 2
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Mounted devfs on /devARNING m_db_manage_f

Freeing prom memory: 0kb freed

------flush priority: 10in threshold value: 0...
flush_page_cache: do flush...
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sata2: reset phy again!
flush_page_cache: do flush...hy reset 1 1
Error
[mtdblock_release] Done 1 0xb801
0x 90000
[mtdblock_release] Donet receive signal for 2
[mtdblock_release] Done0 2 1 4e
yaffs: dev is 32505858 name is "mtdblock2" again!f
cached

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scsi0 : SATA_DRVU
+++ ALLOC inde
sata dma resetchDog does not
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set corepath: /tmp/hdd/volumes/HDD1/lling DvdPlayer*******************is
RootApp AVHDD version... ALLOC in
pli initializa
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Memory address 0x4
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remount RO: ..
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downloader 0 starts, 0x10333e40_desc_table_v1 = 0x10006868 12d
downloader 1 starts, 0x10338ed0(fw_desc_table_v1_t) = 0x20 10
CMD: mkdir -p /tmp/netb/smb
part_entry = 0x10006888or
In my system...3 Wed
part_coun
CMD: mkdir -p /tmp/smbw_entry = 0x1000694800
In my system...n_0
FW type, 0x
CMD: ifconfig > /tmp/netb/samba_my_ipevision
Video FW found!EE index: 135
In my system...y->offset = 0x1
Warning!! the Mask is 255.0.0.0.order:
audio_fw_entry->length =






WARNING WARNING WARNING m_db_manage_flag_cnt = -1->target_addr = 0x81b00000p DVR zone 85000000(805c





DB FILENAME = /tmp/ramfs/Setup 00523000 (usable)
video_fw_e


***128MB version...020BC18-70R1se address: 8009e000one is 0...

(User Input)Pipe Created.dress: 800e9e00 index: 12
(Int Memory address 0x40000000: 804e4000MODE: MARS/JUPIT
hysic
ernal Event)Pipe Created.f4000one 85100000(805c600
pli initialization...s: 86000000le=ttyS0,1
587 loadThemeSetting resource.cpp6384 order: 8 8
map_done is 0...
No THEMESET_INI existsress: 8610000072 order
-=- create FT engine for ./Resource/uEGB.vc#r: 7 DVR zone 85180000(805c7000) 1
release
Error in threshold value: 0....
--- FREE index: 1
WatchDog does not receive signal for 2 seconds, value: 0ess: 86200000B, 4-way,
1. start remap D
--- FREE index:
file system 3, sector 0 free

snappy46
10-11-2011, 11:18 PM
Hi

I just bought my CA-42 however I only have RED, White and Black. I connected the white on TX, the Black on GND and RED on VCC
The hyperterminal just scrolls with a bunch of ...I think errors. Aren't I missing a wire.?



If you only have three wires it means that the cable is powered by your USB and no wires need to be connected to the PBO VCC. What you are getting is normal because you haven't interrupted the boot up process "pressing ESC" and even if you did tried you have one line "RX" that is required that is not connected. The good news is that it appears that the TX and GND are connected correctly since you are getting serial data from the PBO. Just connect your red wire to the RX line of the PBO and you should be able to interrupt the boot process and get access to the YAM monitor.

Good luck

bombcan
10-11-2011, 11:37 PM
Thanks that worked..
One more question how long should it take once I do the load -b asc://tty0 0x80100000 for the popup to appear
So I can pick my bin file

aasoror
10-11-2011, 11:45 PM
instantaneously

Thanks that worked..
One more question how long should it take once I do the load -b asc://tty0 0x80100000 for the popup to appear
So I can pick my bin file

bombcan
10-11-2011, 11:46 PM
ok i figured it out

lokomotif
10-19-2011, 09:45 AM
Great information! Thank you.

Is it OK if I use "1073_c0000_Deimos_avhdd_P027P00_PAL_128x1_pal_rsq. 0000.0202.0027"
for a RTD1283DD chipset player (Mvix Ultio Pro 880HD)?

I will update my bootcoode (0000.0201.0015) but not sure how to do it.

Thanks to everybody.

snappy46
10-19-2011, 01:10 PM
Great information! Thank you.

Is it OK if I use "1073_c0000_Deimos_avhdd_P027P00_PAL_128x1_pal_rsq. 0000.0202.0027"
for a RTD1283DD chipset player (Mvix Ultio Pro 880HD)?

I will update my bootcoode (0000.0201.0015) but not sure how to do it.

Thanks to everybody.

Trying to load a 1073 bootcode onto another IC RTD1283DD/player is probably a very bad idea unless you are in the market for a new player.

Cheers !!!

tourist
10-19-2011, 03:28 PM
Why would you do that when the chipset is different? What make you think it would work? I don't think the bootcode is generic for different chipsets.

lokomotif
10-19-2011, 09:24 PM
Well I just thought that 1073 is a tailored 1283... and to tell you the truth I dont know where to find the right bootcode for Mvix Ultio Pro 880HD. Mvix don't help.

Your PBU forum is the only place I learned how to update a bootcode (and all the files needed are here). Unfortunately it may not be suitable for my device.. or is it?? If not can anybody help me to find bootcode files? Thank you in advance.

:) I am not selleng anything. All I want is to watch my player. :) Cheers
(Hopefully with new bootcode and 3.83 firmware for 3D)

snappy46
10-19-2011, 11:04 PM
Well I just thought that 1073 is a tailored 1283... and to tell you the truth I dont know where to find the right bootcode for Mvix Ultio Pro 880HD. Mvix don't help.

Your PBU forum is the only place I learned how to update a bootcode (and all the files needed are here). Unfortunately it may not be suitable for my device.. or is it?? If not can anybody help me to find bootcode files? Thank you in advance.

:) I am not selleng anything. All I want is to watch my player. :) Cheers
(Hopefully with new bootcode and 3.83 firmware for 3D)

Unless your player manufacturer produce a new bootcode you are pretty much out of luck. You may however be able to find another firmware that works with your player.

Good luck.

tourist
10-20-2011, 01:18 AM
Consider bootcode as BIOS for motherboard and the firmware is like OS.

lokomotif
10-20-2011, 06:59 AM
Thank you for your interest snappy46 and tourist. Anyway I will be checking this thread if anybody can give me a clue.
Because I know that the products below are exactly the same including the remote controllers and the case (except the product name writings on the case):
Mvix Ultio Pro 880HD
Noontec v9
Dark Record Mania
There are more...
:) So hope is hope..
Have a good day!

tourist
10-20-2011, 12:43 PM
If you know chinese, I would refer you to hdpfans' forum where you will find modded firmware for 1283 based player and other information.

fathergoat
10-24-2011, 09:45 PM
I got stuck with the dreaded 5-wire cable. the drivers seem to work but hyperterminal won't connect. I thought I might be able to figure out the rest if I could get that working. any ideas?

snappy46
10-24-2011, 11:38 PM
I got stuck with the dreaded 5-wire cable. the drivers seem to work but hyperterminal won't connect. I thought I might be able to figure out the rest if I could get that working. any ideas?

5 wires ..... you do have the CA-42 cable right ????? Well I am guessing that you definitely need the power from the PBO to power up that cable. Do you have any pictures ??? I guess you first will have to figure out the GND and the power wire; after that you should be able to tie your RX and TX wire together. If when you type at the keyboard in the terminal those keys are echoed back then you have the right RX/TX wires. Now you only have to figure out which one is the RX and which one is the TX. By the way the GND is probably connected to pin 4 of the USB connector if you have a multimeter you could check which one of the 5 wires is connected to USB pin 4. That would at least help identifying which wire is the ground. I am guessing that another one of those wire is probably just a shield and should be connected to the outer casing of the USB connector.

Hope this helps.

Snappy46

fathergoat
10-24-2011, 11:51 PM
well I ordered a CA-42... but it doesn't have any letters or numbers on it so who knows.
I gave up and ordered another one from a different seller. this time I tried to make sure the one pictured in the auction looked like the one pictured here. was labeled "genuine nokia ca-42" doesn't mean it will be right but it's worth a shot.

on a side note I also ordered "Micro JST Connector Panel PCB Mount 4-Pin,4AY" hoping the pin spacing is right so I'll have a clean cable.

snappy46
10-24-2011, 11:53 PM
well I ordered a CA-42... but it doesn't have any letters or numbers on it so who knows.
I gave up and ordered another one from a different seller. this time I tried to make sure the one pictured in the auction looked like the one pictured here. was labeled "genuine nokia ca-42" doesn't mean it will be right but it's worth a shot.

on a side note I also ordered "Micro JST Connector Panel PCB Mount 4-Pin,4AY" hoping the pin spacing is right so I'll have a clean cable.

My previous post was edited you might find something useful ?????

fathergoat
10-25-2011, 12:02 AM
I ran a multimeter across the wires and found no voltage. the thing might just be DOA anyway
here are some photos.

now that I reread that post this cable might not put any voltage out and needs power coming in?

fathergoat
10-25-2011, 01:32 AM
ok I dug the mangled connector out of the trash and was able to determine

Black gnd
Green vcc
White Rx
Blue Tx


if I had read more carefully I would have realized what to do from the start. oh well hopefully this helps other people who get the 5-wire cable.
It's all working fine now

lokomotif
10-30-2011, 08:10 PM
Hello World :)
Can anybody please tell me how to backup my existing bootcode while my player is still working so that I can bravely try some silly update operations on bootcode and firmware. I am not familiar with the commands for hyperterminal.
I am just planning to do exactly what aasoror says but in case that I need my original bootcode...
I have used "erase -m" before as descibed and it encoureged me.
My device is not 1073 but 1283 (Mvix Ultio Pro = Noontec V9) so I need to try some files I found.
Thanks everybody for the great thread.
:)
Life expands or shrinks in propotion to ones courage

pboser
11-08-2011, 03:51 AM
I ordered the exact cable suggested in the first post. And followed all the steps. It did not work. Then noticed that the VCC should not be connected. At some point I also tried swapping TX, RX. Eventually, with the first configuration of TX, RX and after a restart I could get connected. Typed in the commands and started a file transfer. It did not go beyond perhaps 200KB and an error of "no response" showed up. I tried another time and received that error at some other point of file transfer, still below 200KB. Then I thought may be the cable is too long. Cut it in half and now it did not get connected at all. Then tried changing the buffers and baudrate, still no luck.

I'm wondering is having VCC connected at the beginning, or swapping TX, RX could have damaged the PBO. But it did work a three times, did not finish the process though.

Please help with any idea.

aasoror
11-08-2011, 04:02 AM
I'm wondering is having VCC connected at the beginning, or swapping TX, RX could have damaged the PBO. But it did work a three times, did not finish the process though.


I think its more likely a bad cable.

Why have you deduced that VCC shouldn't be connected ? I think if the adapter is USB powered you wont have found a VCC line to start with.
Any way, the VCC line on the cable is an input so its not sending anything to the PBO port.

pboser
11-08-2011, 05:01 AM
aasoror, thanks for responding.
I can measure 3.3 on red wire. I also decided to not connect it based on one of your posts early on this thread. And after disconnecting the Vcc it worked to some extent. I mean get connected and transferred some data.
How could I make sure the cable is good.

pboser
11-08-2011, 12:15 PM
I think its more likely a bad cable.

Why have you deduced that VCC shouldn't be connected ? I think if the adapter is USB powered you wont have found a VCC line to start with.
Any way, the VCC line on the cable is an input so its not sending anything to the PBO port.



I should have made a mistake before. I measured again and Vcc had no voltage to ground. However one of TX or RX has 3.6V and the other one nothing. Do you know by chance what voltages I should be expecting on either one? I will give it another try with All 4 wires connected and with buffers and baudrate changed. By the way, is there an auto baud existing on PBO? I mean can I change the rate to something other than 15200?

pboser
11-08-2011, 07:02 PM
aasoror, thanks for responding.
I can measure 3.3 on red wire. I also decided to not connect it based on one of your posts early on this thread. And after disconnecting the Vcc it worked to some extent. I mean get connected and transferred some data.
How could I make sure the cable is good.


You were right about Vcc. I connected it and changed the tx buffer. At 115200 took less than 3 min. Thanks a lot for your help.

aasoror
11-09-2011, 02:21 AM
You were right about Vcc. I connected it and changed the tx buffer. At 115200 took less than 3 min. Thanks a lot for your help.

Good to know you got it working at the end.
Enjoy your unbrickable PBO :)

overeat
12-02-2011, 07:38 PM
I had couple sony dcu-60 cable, so I gave it a tried, but with the PL2303 driver, xp report the usb device was not recognizable. So I think I will have to buy either the nokia cable or the usb-ttl device. Question no1, does anyone know what kind of cable is dcu-60, is it similar to the nokia cable? Question#2, I search the ebay, and saw there are different usb to ttl device, some of them said PL2102, will those device work, too? Thanks a lot.

sir.atreyu
01-04-2012, 11:01 AM
Thanks for this thread!! I'm happy, finally i un-brick my Realktek CPU Multimedia Player based (Danelec So World TV).

Why my remote don't work? Any ideas??

Thanks again and happy new year!!

tourist
01-04-2012, 02:37 PM
Are you using PBO firmware? Anyway, you may need a different irr file for the remote which is more or less machine specific.

gimmel
01-04-2012, 05:19 PM
Hi Guys

I have a MP2020 from a company here in south africa, mecer, which is distributed by a company called mustek. I tracked it down as a clone of the hornettek and then found the PBO. I bricked mine using the distributers website firmware. grrrrr!

I made up my own cable using a silabs eval board, cp2102-eb and a 5v psu. I finally got it to the realtek monitor prompt after much fiddling with the terminal emulation, but when I tried to enter in the commands, the text was partially garbled e.g. lloaa(special char)(special char)?

I put it aside for a while and came back to it 2 hours later and now I cannot even get a coherent prompt! its all garbled ascii which looks about the same in text quantity as it would normally.

I need a guru's help please. The device still displays the loading screen when connected to the tv.

I'm running win7 (64), putty, 115200 81NN on com port 8 (usb to rs232)

Gimmel

tourist
01-04-2012, 06:00 PM
First of all, I don't think a simple USB to serial adapter would do the job (see post #412). Second, just want to clarify that when you are using the USB serial cable, there is no other connection to the PBO except for the cable and power adapter?

gimmel
01-04-2012, 06:14 PM
Thanks man!

From the break out board, I have taken RX and TX. These are taken before the lines enter the line driver which converts it to the regular +-12 levels of a normal pc. I am taking it directly from the usb to rs232 IC before the maxim IC does the conversion.

Then I wired up a 5V and its accompanying ground to the other to pin headers on the pcb. The 5V and ground I am getting from a TTL/CMOS breadboard psu.

I have removed the 5V vcc connection now, and I get a similar output as well. Also downloaded an old version of hyper terminal.

gimmel
01-04-2012, 08:13 PM
My cable has worked, I'm not worried there, but I think my issue is more along the lines of the HT settings.

At the beginning of the thread, the HT setting are 115200, 8bits, no parity, 1 stop bit and no flow control.

In later posts, I see guys saying to slow down the baud rate. Is the baud rate auto sensing on the PBO side?

Apart from the above, what is the recommended terminal emulation and serial port settings?

hpark21
01-14-2012, 06:06 AM
Thanks to this thread, I was able to recover tonight (3 times in 1 night! For last 1 1/2 year that I owned this thing I did not need to. - I had to make the cable tonight - I had the cable for a while, but never needed it).

first time around, I was playing around with the rcS script and made it so that the system won't boot. (no telnet as well)

I made the cable and the was able to re-flash the firmware.
Then, I tried to update the firmware to another one, and it went into a boot loop.
I used the cable to come out of that fiasco.
Then, while attempting to replace the ARIALUNI.TTF file, I accidentally deleted the file and wasn't able to create the symlink due to disk having zero bytes, Ugh, I don't know why, deleting the 8MB file should have given me enough space to create the sym link. - another re-flash using the cable and this time, I used the opportunity to upgrade the boot code to 27 (from 18).

Anyways, thanks a LOT for this great help!

I used Hyperterm linked in the first post - first link - the link for the "extracted from windows xp" was dead.
I used 115200, 8,n,1,n
Interestingly, I wasn't able to open the connection until I turned on the PBO the first time (did not get a chance to hold escape).
turned off pbo, then turned it on again and it worked.
have to set the speed in 2 places as in the OP thread.

I use Windows 2008 Enterprise server 64bit. I used "Run as Administrator" for the hyperterm.

doggie
01-25-2012, 11:08 PM
hello all i have went true all the pages but i havend seen this.
my nabour did brick his media player and asked meif i wanna look.
so i did hook up my serial to it and this is what i get.



?hello world!
52805 wa28i0 twaiA~A~A~A~A~A~A~A~A~A~A~A~A~A~A~A~A~A~A~A~A~A~A~ A~A~A~A~A~A~A~A~A
~A~A~A~A~A~A~A~A~A~A~A~A~A~A~A~A[HDMI]: Set I2C Speed = 100 kHz
[HDMI]: Chk_HotPlug() TV is not connected.
[HDMI]: Read_EDID abort, HDMI cable plug off.
[HDMI]: TV is not connected.

* Exception : TLB (load or instruction fetch) *
BadVAddr = 0x08c89008 Cause = 0x08800008
Compare = 0x00000000 Config = 0x80a40483
Config1 = 0xbea3519e Config2 = 0x80000000
Config3 = 0x00000020 Context = 0x0e046440
Count = 0x06f29526 DEPC = 0xa1203700
Debug = 0x02018001 EBase = 0x80000000
EPC = 0x800da6b0 EntryHi = 0x08c88000
EntryLo0 = 0x006557a9 EntryLo1 = 0x0213ce40
ErrorEPC = 0xff200200 HWREna = 0x00000000
Index = 0x00000005 IntCtl = 0x00000000
PRId = 0x00019378 PageMask = 0x19fe0000
Random = 0x00000015 SRSCtl = 0x04000000
SRSMap = 0x00000000 Status = 0x00004c02
Wired = 0x00000000 Hi = 0x00000000
Lo = 0x0000008f

$ 0(zr):0x00000000 $ 8(t0):0x06217753 $16(s0):0xa00096f6 $24(t8):0x80029740
$ 1(at):0x00000000 $ 9(t1):0xc3745f91 $17(s1):0x80030000 $25(t9):0x00000000
$ 2(v0):0xa00096f6 $10(t2):0x00000002 $18(s2):0x00000800 $26(k0):0x00000000
$ 3(v1):0xf7376ff8 $11(t3):0xcdbba40b $19(s3):0x00020000 $27(k1):0x80035d80
$ 4(a0):0xa00096f6 $12(t4):0x5bca3e5c $20(s4):0x00000040 $28(gp):0x014c1ae0
$ 5(a1):0x08c89008 $13(t5):0x37f15633 $21(s5):0x0003aa30 $29(sp):0x80077028
$ 6(a2):0x048dc010 $14(t6):0x7037076a $22(s6):0xffffffff $30(s8):0xa00fb000
$ 7(a3):0x00000002 $15(t7):0x019151c5 $23(s7):0x00000280 $31(ra):0x800d9410


and then it stops i can't do any input in ht whats wrong or realy a brick!!!!!!!!!!

aasoror
01-29-2012, 03:09 AM
hello all i have went true all the pages but i havend seen this.
my nabour did brick his media player and asked meif i wanna look.
so i did hook up my serial to it and this is what i get.



You need to hold the escape key to interrupt the setup, if you can't interrupt the startup sequence then double check your wiring (namely TX)

doggie
01-31-2012, 10:28 PM
the escape key didn't work.
but holding the space key did.
i did get s/d/g/c
so i was abel to put back in hw settings and bootloader.
see link http://forum.xtreamer.net/mediawiki-1.15.1/index.php/Xtreamer_Hardware_Specifications#Bootloader_Recove ry

bbaez
03-08-2012, 03:17 PM
Thanks everyone! Upgraded to 27 from 16. My toddlers have grown up watching downloaded youtube videos (Disneyland) on these boxes for the last 3 years or so. Two more boxes to go and then I hope one of the semi official firmware has movie picture tile selection for ease of toddlers.