Can Box Office stream video content from Netflix, Hulu, CBS, Youtube and etc.?

[rrurru]

Can box office support streaming video content from Netflix, Hulu, CBS, Youtube, CNN, ESPN and etc.? If so, how to do that? Thanks alot.

[aasoror]

Can box office support streaming video content from Netflix, Hulu, CBS, Youtube, CNN, ESPN and etc.? If so, how to do that? Thanks alot.

through "tversity" and "playon", google is your friend .. once you got any of them installed PBO should be able to connect to them via UPNP/Net section

[rrurru]

Thanks. Would you mind to teach me the details about how to set it up? Thanks again.

[aasoror]

Thanks. Would you mind to teach me the details about how to set it up? Thanks again.

I would be more than happy, but alas, I don't have such knowledge. I think Playon or Tversity forums would be the right place to check for resources.

[rrurru]

Thanks a lot!

[Bijal]

a) Download & Install Tversity, uncheck the boxes that install anything other than Tversity (don't install the Babylon whatever thing and DON'T install the Tversity codec pack)
b) UNCHECK everything at the end of the install (DON'T start the server, don't open the Tversity interface - we don't want it to run until the codecs are installed)
c) Open a "Run" box ("Run" under the Start menu) and type Services.msc, hit Enter. Find the Tversity Media Server and double-click it and change the Startup Type to Manual. (don't worry we'll change it back in a second) This is to ensure Tversity doesn't start until we're ready for it to.
d) RESTART YOUR PC. There's a reason this in all caps. There's a reason it doesn't say "install the codec pack" yet.
e) Download & Install the CCCP. Go here: http://www.cccp-project.net/ and get the most current version. Make sure not to disable Haali & ffdshow when you install CCCP.
f) Download & Install the Haali Media splitter or Matroska Splitter. Go here: http://www.matroska.org/downloads/windows.html (LOOK UNDER "FILTERS and you'll see CCCP....then, yep, Haali Media Splitter).
g) RESTART YOUR PC.
h) Once you've restarted, repeat step C, but change the startup type to Automatic if you want the server to be on when Windows starts. If you don't want it to be, leave it as Manual and you can start it thru the Services.msc screen or via the Tversity interface. I prefer to have it Manual so that its not using resources unless I want it to, but if its not in use it doesn't really eat up CPU too bad.
i)Open TVersity - by now you can pretty much good to go! You also needed to check ALWAYS TRANSCODE on both the file library on Tversity and on the Setting tabs as well. Check this youtube video and you will get the idea http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7IIfRxoE8g.

Good Luck and Happy installing TVersity!

[aasoror]

Good Luck and Happy installing TVersity!

Great post, thanks Bijal

[Bijal]

Just wanted to add few thing:

You don't need to do step f) anymore, only one codec pack is fine(CCCP).
And in step i) You needed to check N/A TRANSCODE instead of ALWAYS TRANCODE on the file library and check ONLY WHEN NEEDED on the Setting tabs.

Cheers!!

[gsking]

...should be a sticky?

[aasoror]

...should be a sticky?

+1 ... Yes .. it should.

[snappy46]

Awesome post I boot up windows and was up and streaming videos and radio podcast to my PBO within 10 minutes.

I really wish that Tversity would come out with a Linux version of their software.

Please make this a sticky!!

[aasoror]

Just wanted to add few thing:

You don't need to do step f) anymore, only one codec pack is fine(CCCP).


Do you actually still need this step if you already have other codec packs (namely K-Lite mega codec pack ?)

with Win 7 built in UPnP I have noticed some significant loss in the quality of some high def contents, I am guessing this is because of the transcoding involved in the streaming. Is that the case with TVersity too ?

[muvipix]

with Win 7 built in UPnP I have noticed some significant loss in the quality of some high def contents, I am guessing this is because of the transcoding involved in the streaming. Is that the case with TVersity too ?
Yes. Definitely play your HD through the PBO only.

[rrurru]

It's very detail. Thanks Bijal!

[sklim1]

If I understand correctly from this thread, you have to stream from another PC to the PBO? Is there away get neflix, etc direct without another PC running? This sort defeats the purpose of the PBO for me and it's holding me back from buying one.

Any future FW update will support this?

[aasoror]

If I understand correctly from this thread, you have to stream from another PC to the PBO? Is there away get neflix, etc direct without another PC running? This sort defeats the purpose of the PBO for me and it's holding me back from buying one.

Any future FW update will support this?

Yes, you do understand correctly. The PBO can't access online contents standalone.

Right now, I wouldn't base any purchase decision on a probable FW update, because Patriot hasn't released any information about what does that FW update offers. Any I personally don't think it will offer any major leaps (like standalone online content access).

[ecsaltz]

Here are some issues to check if PBO can not see the TVersity server:

1. Make sure that no other media server is running on the PC hosting the TVersity server. This may not be necessary in all cases. Snoop around the PC services (services.msc) to see if Windows Media Services is running, Hauppauge TV card services (or TV cards from other manufacturers), etc.

2. If there is more than one NIC or NIC like (VMWare) adapters, setup TVersity to use the IP address of the desired NIC card.

3. Make sure the TVersity.exe is a program exemption on the PC firewall.

I had to do the above to make TVersity viewable to PBO. Once I got it working, I was able to see YouTube videos I had in the TVersity library. I still have a way to go for other media to view, though.

[py2000]

I couldn't seem to be able to stream RMVB files to PBO from Tversity via uPnP. PBO treats them as invalid files. It could play them fine when it gets them from the "NET" shared folders.

[aasoror]

I couldn't seem to be able to stream RMVB files to PBO from Tversity via uPnP. PBO treats them as invalid files. It could play them fine when it gets them from the "NET" shared folders.

There are several compatibility issues reported between the PBO and uPnP servers in general (Tversity .. Win7 uPnP ..etc), try to connect to Tversity from another machine and see if you can run the RMVB. If you are successful please report it on the buglist sticky.

[py2000]

There are several compatibility issues reported between the PBO and uPnP servers in general (Tversity .. Win7 uPnP ..etc), try to connect to Tversity from another machine and see if you can run the RMVB. If you are successful please report it on the buglist sticky.

I did a bit more research after I posted and found the "solution" under the "Additional Notes" section on this page:

http://tversity.com/download/ (http://tversity.com/download/)

"6. Transcoding of some file formats require the installation of third party directshow filters that are compatible with TVersity.

* Haali Media Splitter - for OGG/OGM and Matroska.
* Real Alternative - for Real audio and video."

So I installed Real Alternative, which prompted me to uninstall Real Media Player. After a PC reboot, I was able to stream (some) RMVB files to PBO using Tversity and uPnP. PBO still said some other RMVB files (for the same TV series as the ones that worked) were invalid files but I only quickly tested a few video files. I was under the impression that the picture quality looked worse than streaming the vidoes directly using the "NET" option even after I set compression in TVersity setting to minimum, so I kind of decided to give up on that and for now restrict using Tversity for Youtube videos only.

[rahulpatil]

Guys,
I wanted to know how I can add my youtube subscription in TVersity so that I can stream it to the PBO.
I can add individual youtube videos and watch them with the PBO but not the subscriptions.
Anybody has this working? please walk me through the setup.

[anadigi]

+1 ... Yes .. it should.

I have installed the Tversity on one of my PC( Vista)
I can play songs, photos, however, I have dowbload the video from the Guide; the PBO has invalid file! Do I make any mistake?

[muvipix]

You're probably just missing the proper codec.

Search for K-Lite codec pack (basic), install and try again.

[Patriot_Ben]

...should be a sticky?

Stickied..

[anadigi]

You're probably just missing the proper codec.

Search for K-Lite codec pack (basic), install and try again.

I have uninstall all the codec packs & install the K-lite still not working, do I have to uninstall the Divx codec too?

[muvipix]

Can you play the video directly on your computer?

[anadigi]

Can you play the video directly on your computer?

Yes, I can!

[muvipix]

In the TVersity program, got to Settings >> Transcode >> When to transcode. What setting do you have?

Also, what kind of video file is it? Does TVersity support the file type?

[anadigi]

In the TVersity program, got to Settings >> Transcode >> When to transcode. What setting do you have?

Also, what kind of video file is it? Does TVersity support the file type?

I just download the files right from the Tversity-Guide-Featured-South Park Clips, I want to see whether it is working. I can see the files go to the internet folder. When I played from the PBO, the result is invalid file!
I have tried all the sugestion from this link, out of luck!

One more thing is the jpg from Tversity(Upnp) is very poor! The quality from the Dlink or Valkyrie media NAS are fine! I have changed to different image setting from Tversity setting; no improvment!

I am wondering what is the point to waste a computer resource to have the Tversity?

The only good thing I have found is the Flac files quality seem better from the Dlink( Valkyrie is not even working with my Onkyo nr807)

[miljenko]

Sorry for my poor english.

I'm planing to buy Patriot media player and I wonder is it possible to stream from one IP in home network. I have satellite receiver Dreambox connected to a LAN and trough network I can watch direct stream on remote computer using VLC player.

Thank you.

[aasoror]

Sorry for my poor english.

I'm planing to buy Patriot media player and I wonder is it possible to stream from one IP in home network. I have satellite receiver Dreambox connected to a LAN and trough network I can watch direct stream on remote computer using VLC player.

Thank you.

How is your VLC player accessing your Dreambox ?
- VLC player connects to the HDD inside the dreambox that is shared on the network ... the PBO can do that as well.
- VLC player is using the UPnP server running on the dreambox (if it has one running) ... the PBO can do that too.

[miljenko]

Trough IP address and port. For example in VLC "Open network stream" then in UDP I insert address of the Dreambox and port in a designated box. On that way I can watch channel on the same time on TV and computer. If media player support this feature I will watch satellite channels on another tv in my house. Just to add that this will be great thing because I have LAN connection in every room.

[aasoror]

Trough IP address and port. For example in VLC "Open network stream" then in UDP I insert address of the Dreambox and port in a designated box. On that way I can watch channel on the same time on TV and computer. If media player support this feature I will watch satellite channels on another tv in my house. Just to add that this will be great thing because I have LAN connection in every room.

OK now I get it, nope, such setup wont work with the PBO (currently), I would recommend checking your box for UPnP streaming options.

[miljenko]

Anyway thank you for your help.

[hsahay]

Well unlike everybody else i have playon and it does not work very well with PBO. Lots of little annoyances - the biggest one being that when you position the cursor on any clip (netflix movie or hulu movie/clip), after a while the video preview window just shows "Invalid file".

The only way to make it work is to rapidly move to another clip in the list using the up-down key and without stopping move back to the clip for which you got the invalid file. You may need to do it a couple of times but eventually it shows up in the preview window.

After the clip or movie finishes, i think it tries to move down the list automatically and hangs. Probably because it can't automatically do what you just did with the up-down key.

Also no ability to rewind / fwd when watching netflix.

Guys netflix and hulu are so fundamental to the alernative media scene today that you simply cannot afford to give them a short shrift.

Infact these two should be a direct option in your box without having to resort to playon or tversity.

Well that may be asking for too much but any chance the playon issue could be fixed in an upcoming firmware update ?

[Interlocutor]

In the TVersity program, got to Settings >> Transcode >> When to transcode. What setting do you have?

Also, what kind of video file is it? Does TVersity support the file type?

I have this: When to transcode?. No apparent way to make adjaustment. Do I need the Pro addition? Did I miss that somewhere?

[samthjj67]

Yes, StreamTransport is able to browse and download video clips from video hosting websites of HTTP, RTMP, RTMPT, RTMPE, RTMPTE protocol, and these cover overwhelming majority of websites such as Hulu, Veoh, Boxee, Joost, YouTube, Yahoo Video, CBS, etc.

[cariengon]

I tried both TVersity and PlayOn (both relatively simple to set up) and I like PlayOn better. It was easily found on the PBO - and the interface when used with a Wii is nicer. Plus PlayOn has an easier setup and menu, and the plugins available offer quite a range of entertainment.

Hopefully, my family will be happy with the channels available and we can get rid of the $130/mth cable bill - that we rarely watch....

[CSalantrie]

I followed your steps in downloading and installing TVersity, but am still confused. I'm looking to play streaming content from P2P TV web sites such as http://www.myp2pforum.eu/threads/36549-Streaming-MLB-Today-Sat-Apr-24
What do I have to do different to play this content on my PBO?
Thanks

[jamaroney]

I really enjoy my Netflix streaming, so after my Roku box died, I tried both Tversity and Playon.

First I tried Tversity (free version), which ended up being pretty useless for me, since it offers no Netflix. Its channels are pretty worthless to me, and it has a clumsy non-intuitive interface (makes PBO's GUI seem downright user friendly).

Then I tried Playon (which does offer Netflix), but after an easy installation and recognition by PBO, I had nothing but problems! I couldn't watch a single thing - it kept coming up with "Invalid File" (moving back and forth from one movie to another didn't work at all). And many times the PBO often just hung up, and would revive only when I stopped Playon's server. I'm glad it came as a free trial.

Looks like I'll be buying another Roku box.

[hellraizer]

Has anyone played around with other media servers and maybe compiled a list of what works and what does not???

How about the one of the following:
PS3 Media Server
TwonkyMedia
Nero MediaHome
Fuppes

Can someone please share thier findings?

Thanks
A Future PBO owner :)

[snappy46]

Has anyone played around with other media servers and maybe compiled a list of what works and what does not???

How about the one of the following:
PS3 Media Server
TwonkyMedia
Nero MediaHome
Fuppes

Can someone please share thier findings?

Thanks
A Future PBO owner :)

I use mediatomb (linux UPNP server) on my linux machine to stream online content like Ytube and other. Actually I ran mediatomb on the PBO for a week or so before I screw up my PBO by flashing the PM latest firmware with bootcode 16 (duh!!!). Anyhow mediatomb works fairly good for me to stream internet video's and internet radios. See this link to install on your PBO http://www.patriotmemory.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3560

[wigout]

I had a question in using mediatomb on the pbo-
Does the mediatomb that is running on the pbo appear on the pbo's upnp list?
What happens if you click on it?
KA-BOOOM!?!?

But seriously, is it there?
-wigout

[snappy46]

I had a question in using mediatomb on the pbo-
Does the mediatomb that is running on the pbo appear on the pbo's upnp list?
What happens if you click on it?
KA-BOOOM!?!?

But seriously, is it there?
-wigout

Yes it is just like if you were running it on a stand alone computer. You just go to the UPNP selection and there it is with all the content you added in the Database using the Web interface. As far as I can tell there are no diffence between running on the PBO and stand alone computer and mediatomb uses very little resources. I once downloaded a bittorent using btpd, and played a 720P video stream with mediatomb (runnig on the PBO) without missing a beat. I was rather schoked!!

EDIT: After thought; the one difference between running mediatomb on your PBO and on your PC is the transcoding. I don't think that you would be able to do any on the fly transcoding with mediatomb running on the PBO. I don't think that the PBO has the power and it's also missing the software use to do most transcoding that is FFMpeg and VLC.

[scboley]

I have mine running separately on linux and the downfall is it shows a gazillion movies in a flat list. I originally took them and broke them out by genre action comedy drama and so forth but couldn't figure a way to hack the database of the mediatomb to make them back to genres. Now I'm using the acryan and tvixie and it's irrelevant as I use the straight network folder and the way it uses the tvixie is amazing.

[hellraizer]

Thanks for the info on Mediatomb

My problem is that i'm running Win 7 With PS3 media server which is a cool program and it works well for the PS3 but seeing that it is also a upnp server i was hoping to get the PBO hook it up to a second TV and that it will be able to play media from the same server.

Will the PBO be compatible with any upnp media servers?

[scboley]

If the UPNP is done correctly and the files are in a playable format that is streamed yes it should work.

[gmd024]

Thanks for the info on Mediatomb

My problem is that i'm running Win 7 With PS3 media server which is a cool program and it works well for the PS3 but seeing that it is also a upnp server i was hoping to get the PBO hook it up to a second TV and that it will be able to play media from the same server.

Will the PBO be compatible with any upnp media servers?

As scboley stated - "If the UPNP is done correctly and the files are in a playable format that is streamed yes it should work."

I have PlayOn, XBMC, Twonkey and some aspects of Boxee working through upnp on my PBO

I'm hoping Boxee will allow their web content (ie.. Hulu, MLB, NHL, TV Shows, Movies etc...) to be enabled though upnp soon -- but I'm sure that feature is being saved for the Boxee Box when it's intruduced (I believe sometime in June)

[snappy46]

I have PlayOn, XBMC, Twonkey and some aspects of Boxee working through upnp on my PBO

I'm hoping Boxee will allow their web content (ie.. Hulu, MLB, NHL, TV Shows, Movies etc...) to be enabled though upnp soon -- but I'm sure that feature is being saved for the Boxee Box when it's intruduced (I believe sometime in June)

I would be very interested to know how you setup boxee to be visible as an UPNP server. I made the following changes to boxee guisettings.xml file:


<upnp>
<client>true</client>
<musicshares></musicshares>
<pictureshares></pictureshares>
<renderer>true</renderer>
<sep1></sep1>
<server>true</server>
<videoshares></videoshares>
</upnp>


Which should have enable the UPNP server but I could not see it on the PBO UPNP menu. Anything else I should have done.

Thanks

[gmd024]

I would be very interested to know how you setup boxee to be visible as an UPNP server. I made the following changes to boxee guisettings.xml file:


<upnp>
<client>true</client>
<musicshares></musicshares>
<pictureshares></pictureshares>
<renderer>true</renderer>
<sep1></sep1>
<server>true</server>
<videoshares></videoshares>
</upnp>


Which should have enable the UPNP server but I could not see it on the PBO UPNP menu. Anything else I should have done.

Thanks

Boxee apparently uses 'XBMC' as it's media serving layout because that's what shows up in the PBO's upnp as the only choice when Boxee is "on" - /XBMC:media server: (192.168.1.xxx)/ - it's the only choice to access Boxee via upnp in the PBO when Boxee is enabled/turned on, on my W7 PC/media server over my wireless N LAN

The only 'choices' after accessing it via upnp are -- Music Files, Music Library, Picture Files, Video Files and Video Labrary

I do not have anything loaded in the 'choices' listed above so there is nothing to access in Boxee (for my scenario) - because the only way I use/access Boxee is for its' web content (ie.. Hulu, YouTube, NHL, Movies etc...) --- so that's why I mentioned that I hope the Boxee App will make its' web content to be upnp enabled --- If I remember correctly, this is a 'Flash' issue with boxee/upnp at this time - and most likely will be fixed/available when the Boxee Box is released (maybe in June)

At this time the edit I did was...
<upnp>
<client>true</client>
<musicshares></musicshares>
<pictureshares></pictureshares>
<renderer>true</renderer>
<sep1></sep1>
<server>true</server>
<videoshares></videoshares>
</upnp>
----------------------------------

I'm not sure if XBMC needs to be installed also for Boxee to be upnp capable (I doubt it) but (XBMC is also installed on my PC) - In any case as I mentioned, Boxee shows up as "XBMC" in the upnp of the PBO's GUI -- but apparently you must load some local content in order for it to play something --- which I have not done - becuase, as mentioned, all I want to get from Boxee is it's web content

Boxee released a beta version a short time ago - and it is "very impressive" as far as the web content that's available and the clarity of the resolution it offers

Hope this helps

[snappy46]

<upnp>
<client>true</client>
<musicshares></musicshares>
<pictureshares></pictureshares>
<renderer>true</renderer>
<sep1></sep1>
<server>false</server>
<videoshares></videoshares>
</upnp>
----------------------------------


Shouldn't the server line above be true instead of false to enable the server?



I'm not sure if XBMC needs to be installed also for Boxee to be upnp capable (I doubt it) but (XBMC is also installed on my PC) - In any case as I mentioned, Boxee shows up as "XBMC" in the upnp of the PBO's GUI -- but apparently you must load some local content in order for it to play something --- which I have not done - becuase, as mentioned, all I want to get from Boxee is it's web content


I have both also installed on my computer XBMC and Boxee; however from the sound of things I think you are running these software on a window machine while I run mine in Linux (Ubuntu 10.04 to be more precise). That might account for the difference in the behaviour.



If I remeber - the settings you mention above (true-true-true) were for the alpha version of Boxee when used on Linux -- but don't quote me on that - Boxee is now in beta - and it is "very impressive" as far as the web content that's available and the clarity of the resolution it offers


I will double check the version of boxee I am currently using to see if I have the latest version. I do not care that much about the hulu and other contents since I am in Canada and those stream do not work over here. What I am hoping for is for some Canadian content from our Canadian broadcast company; you know the one's in igloos.:D

Thanks for your help.

[gmd024]

Shouldn't the server line above be true instead of false to enable the server?



I have both also installed on my computer XBMC and Boxee; however from the sound of things I think you are running these software on a window machine while I run mine in Linux (Ubuntu 10.04 to be more precise). That might account for the difference in the behaviour.



I will double check the version of boxee I am currently using to see if I have the latest version. I do not care that much about the hulu and other contents since I am in Canada and those stream do not work over here. What I am hoping for is for some Canadian content from our Canadian broadcast company; you know the one's in igloos.:D

Thanks for your help.

You are absolutely correct - the server is set for "true" - I had copied/pasted some suggestions found while trolling the net/boxee forum and of course that one didn't work - and I had copied from it and incorrectly pasted it into the post you questioned
I will edit the original post to correct the mistake

Yes -- I'm using W7 x64 as my OS --- you may want to pm 'agentlame' on the Boxee forum - he's a super moderator on that forum - he seems very familiar with boxee, and I believe he uses Linux - or just search the boxee forum for 'upnp' - you'll see a lot of issues listed with upnp and Boxee

Boxee released the current beta version a short time ago I believe -- and I see they offer a 32 and 64 bit version for Linux

Good luck with your upnp/boxee issue -- but I believe Boxee/D-Link are saving the upnp/flash fix for the release of the Boxee Box -- hope I'm wrong

[SkiBunny]

I really enjoy my Netflix streaming, so after my Roku box died, I tried both Tversity and Playon.

First I tried Tversity (free version), which ended up being pretty useless for me, since it offers no Netflix. Its channels are pretty worthless to me, and it has a clumsy non-intuitive interface (makes PBO's GUI seem downright user friendly).

Then I tried Playon (which does offer Netflix), but after an easy installation and recognition by PBO, I had nothing but problems! I couldn't watch a single thing - it kept coming up with "Invalid File" (moving back and forth from one movie to another didn't work at all). And many times the PBO often just hung up, and would revive only when I stopped Playon's server. I'm glad it came as a free trial.

Looks like I'll be buying another Roku box.
The WDTV Live Plus can stream Netflix right out of the box.

[aasoror]

The WDTV Live Plus can stream Netflix right out of the box.

Same goes for Seagate FAT+. We all know its a software feature, yet WD continues to scr*w their loyal customers (over and over again), they make a whole new box just for a firmware update.

That said, FAT+ has the same RT chipset like the PBO, this means that in theory a seagate unlocked firmware will enable Netflix on the PBO.

[SkiBunny]

We all know its a software feature, yet WD continues to scr*w their loyal customers (over and over again), they make a whole new box just for a firmware update.

And apparently so does Asus. Based on what I've read on their forum, O!Play firmware update enabled wifi on the USB port, but then subsequent firmware removed that ability. Now you must buy the O!Play Air box instead.

Maybe a better business model would be to sell a software update subscription for a modest price for those who want it, which could pay for new features and also for firmware testing :rolleyes:

[kosskossy]

I recently became a proud owner of the PBO and I have had some fun fooling around with firmware P05 and then ACRyan.

The one thing I couldn't understand is the UPnP feature in the PBO. It looks like it can't see any of my PCs which are running WIN7 64 bit or a Windows Home Server that is running a Townky Media Server or a Zyxel NSA220 (with the media server turned on)... what's up with that:confused:? Is there a way I can fix this issue? I am not afraid of getting my hands dirty with Linux commands, I just want to know how Y'all overcame this issue

Before I bought the PBO, I had a D-LINK (DSM-510) who was able to see all UPnP compatible server with no issue!

Your advice is greatly appreciated

[tourist]

And apparently so does Asus. Based on what I've read on their forum, O!Play firmware update enabled wifi on the USB port, but then subsequent firmware removed that ability. Now you must buy the O!Play Air box instead.

Maybe a better business model would be to sell a software update subscription for a modest price for those who want it, which could pay for new features and also for firmware testing :rolleyes:

Isn't it the same for Seagate too? I saw the same complaint by FAT+ users that new firmwares are only for later model but not FAT+. That makes me worry as Patriot is going to release a new media player in a few months.

[billcat]

Isn't it the same for Seagate too? I saw the same complaint by FAT+ users that new firmwares are only for later model but not FAT+. That makes me worry as Patriot is going to release a new media player in a few months.

It's sort of the same. Seagate stopped support on the FAT shortly after releasing the FAT+. Supposedly the FAT+ is due for one more firmware release but nobody's holding their breath. There's little doubt that they'll stop support of the FAT+ after the release of their new unit. Seagate now has that kind of history.

Only time will tell the fate of the PBO. I know there are disturbed mumblings going on about other vendors following Seagate's lead since it's pretty obvious that the user can be locked out of the realtek cpu completely. But I know that Seagate, and anybody else who plays that dirty game, has gotten my last buck. Profit is fine, but a user needs freedom of choice and a respect for the rights of that choice by the vendor. Locking us out from even simple manipulation of rss feeds is an unconscionable insult.

(rant over) :D

[pbo_ca]

Thanks a lot.
I installed Tversity 1.9.2 free version on my Windows XP Pro SP3.
The major changes I made for my installation were:
1. For step a), it still works although I didn't uncheck the boxes for configuration and codec package.

2. There is no need to do step f) and i). The default setting is fine.

3. Change the profiles.xml, located at "your installation directory\Media Server\profiles.xml" based on
http://www.patriotmem.com/forums/showpost.php?p=15788&postcount=10

I added youtube, NBC, National Geography, CBC_National, etc feeds. It works well.

One important thing. If you met a problem of media server not being restarted, a possible solution will be the following :
# Are you using uTorrent? It has a setting called enable UPnP port mapping which is found under (Options / Preferences / Connections / Enable UPnP Port Mapping), when enabled it appears that it is not possible to use TVersity. When you disable this setting and restart uTorrent and TVersity the service should start fine. If you are using some other P2P software, it may have similar settings, which will need to be disabled.
# Reboot your computer and check again if the service started.
# Uninstall all previous versions of the software and re-install the latest one, then check again if the service started (this is especially true if you installed TVersity on Windows XP and then upgraded your computer to Vista or Windows 7).
Please check the following link for details
http://tversity.com/support/faq/#troubleshooting-faq


Enjoy and have fun~



a) Download & Install Tversity, uncheck the boxes that install anything other than Tversity (don't install the Babylon whatever thing and DON'T install the Tversity codec pack)
b) UNCHECK everything at the end of the install (DON'T start the server, don't open the Tversity interface - we don't want it to run until the codecs are installed)
c) Open a "Run" box ("Run" under the Start menu) and type Services.msc, hit Enter. Find the Tversity Media Server and double-click it and change the Startup Type to Manual. (don't worry we'll change it back in a second) This is to ensure Tversity doesn't start until we're ready for it to.
d) RESTART YOUR PC. There's a reason this in all caps. There's a reason it doesn't say "install the codec pack" yet.
e) Download & Install the CCCP. Go here: http://www.cccp-project.net/ and get the most current version. Make sure not to disable Haali & ffdshow when you install CCCP.
f) Download & Install the Haali Media splitter or Matroska Splitter. Go here: http://www.matroska.org/downloads/windows.html (LOOK UNDER "FILTERS and you'll see CCCP....then, yep, Haali Media Splitter).
g) RESTART YOUR PC.
h) Once you've restarted, repeat step C, but change the startup type to Automatic if you want the server to be on when Windows starts. If you don't want it to be, leave it as Manual and you can start it thru the Services.msc screen or via the Tversity interface. I prefer to have it Manual so that its not using resources unless I want it to, but if its not in use it doesn't really eat up CPU too bad.
i)Open TVersity - by now you can pretty much good to go! You also needed to check ALWAYS TRANSCODE on both the file library on Tversity and on the Setting tabs as well. Check this youtube video and you will get the idea http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7IIfRxoE8g.

Good Luck and Happy installing TVersity!

[petec]

Did a quick test with TVersity today. Historically have only used it to stream audio; thus it was installed on an old 2003 "slow box". Installed TVersity today on a newer dual core set up. I installed it with the default Tversity codecs and a modified "profiles.xml" file. I noticed that the video streaming/transcoding was much smoother to the PBO than the older box. BTW I redid the modification to the XML file as the one posted never would see my PBO.

[avman]

And apparently so does Asus. Based on what I've read on their forum, O!Play firmware update enabled wifi on the USB port, but then subsequent firmware removed that ability. Now you must buy the O!Play Air box instead.

.......

However, it's actually trivial to install any subsequent AIR firmware onto the basic non-wifi model to permit a wireless b/g/n usb dongle to be used, as also explained in some threads on Asus' forum :)

[perskine]

Does this work TVersity's free trial version? Or do you need to purchase the full version?

[DEKConsultingLLC]

I had an opportunity to test a most recent release of Playon (March 2011 - sorry I didn't record the version) with one of my PBO's Rev P61 release code. I had mixed results.

Using Playon on a hardwired workstation and streaming a Netflix movie to a Wireless "G" (Patriots adapter) PBO, my video quality was very poor. I could watch a movie on a 27 inch monitor, but viewing on my 1080p projector against a 114inch screen was unacceptable. Running the same test against a hardwired PBO, I had a good enough image for my big screen. That said, here's what I learned about Playon with a PBO.

The Good:
Setup is extremely easy. Install Playon onto a workstation or laptop, edit some logon information to Netflix, Hulu, or anyone else you may subscribe to, and you're ready to go. Open the PBO and browse to UPNP devices. Your Playon enabled workstation should be there for the browsing.

I found that if I didn't see my playon enabled workstation, I would attempt to browse my network using the PBO, and then go back to the UPNP devices, and there it was. My testing was with Netflix, and I found that configuring the PBO to NOT preview movies was helpful with Playon. I also found that configuring Playon NOT to que movies was also helpful.

Playing movies is pretty easy, and with a good connection, you should be able to watch more than Netflix right from your PBO !

The Bad:
No subtitles in NetFlix. I couldn't get them when streaming through Playon.
No Dolby 5.1 or DTS. Stereo only.
No rewind in a movie. Pause, FF only.
No Chapter selections as you find with a DVD.
No alternate languages
Movie handling is also irritating. Lets say I start watching a movie, stop, and decide to go back and watch it again. Unfortunately, the movie won't start at the beginning, nor will it start exactly where you left off. It starts somewhere in between. The only fix is to fast forward the movie to the end, and start over - or open your netflix account, and manually FF the movie so that you can rewatch it. Not a pleasant option, and Playon states that while Netflix can accept a "restart" command in dedicated apps, Playon functions like a browser, and treats the video stream differently...

In a nutshell, I didn't purchase Playon for use with my PBO. It streamed ok, and worked "ok" with my android as long as I was on my local WiFi LAN. To me, the overall experience was too "kludgey" to make it enjoyable to use.

Hope these comments help

[aasoror]

The Bad:
No subtitles in NetFlix. I couldn't get them when streaming through Playon.
No Dolby 5.1 or DTS. Stereo only.
No rewind in a movie. Pause, FF only.
No Chapter selections as you find with a DVD.
No alternate languages
Movie handling is also irritating. Lets say I start watching a movie, stop, and decide to go back and watch it again. Unfortunately, the movie won't start at the beginning, nor will it start exactly where you left off. It starts somewhere in between. The only fix is to fast forward the movie to the end, and start over - or open your netflix account, and manually FF the movie so that you can rewatch it. Not a pleasant option, and Playon states that while Netflix can accept a "restart" command in dedicated apps, Playon functions like a browser, and treats the video stream differently...

Thanks for the comments, let me just add that the well taken points above are factor of UPnP playback and PlayON, there isn't that PBO has to do with it, that said, this remains the ONLY way to get NF on the PBO currently (and the tons of other contents without a direct rss access).

[shawnph]

I've been using PlayOn for a long time, maybe a year? It works fine but is sometimes a little flakey. Some videos won't play. Or I may have to jump off and back on a listing several times to get it to finally recognize the file.

[valem]

This may be a repeat question, but I searched and was not able to find the answer, so I apologize if it is explained already.
As I read all the steps above, where exactly would I install the tversity software? On the internal PBO HDD? Or on a PC on the network?
If it's on a PC that would mean that I have to have the PC up and running to stream through the PBO?

Does anyone know if the TVersity software can be installed on a NAS instead of a PC? Because if I need a PC, then I would have to have a PC dedicated just to stream through the PBO, and if that's the case then might as well put the PC in the livingroom and connect it to the TV.

Thanks for all the help!!

[gmd024]

This may be a repeat question, but I searched and was not able to find the answer, so I apologize if it is explained already.
As I read all the steps above, where exactly would I install the tversity software? On the internal PBO HDD? Or on a PC on the network?
If it's on a PC that would mean that I have to have the PC up and running to stream through the PBO?

Does anyone know if the TVersity software can be installed on a NAS instead of a PC? Because if I need a PC, then I would have to have a PC dedicated just to stream through the PBO, and if that's the case then might as well put the PC in the livingroom and connect it to the TV.

Thanks for all the help!!

I'm not familar with a NAS or TVersity, but I think the answer might be 'no' - But I can say that PlayOn installed and functions without issue on my Windows Home Server, which runs an Operating System (WHS) and PlayOn must be installed on an OS - hopefully someone will chime in and answer your specific NAS/TVersity question

[snappy46]

This may be a repeat question, but I searched and was not able to find the answer, so I apologize if it is explained already.
As I read all the steps above, where exactly would I install the tversity software? On the internal PBO HDD? Or on a PC on the network?
If it's on a PC that would mean that I have to have the PC up and running to stream through the PBO?

Does anyone know if the TVersity software can be installed on a NAS instead of a PC? Because if I need a PC, then I would have to have a PC dedicated just to stream through the PBO, and if that's the case then might as well put the PC in the livingroom and connect it to the TV.

Thanks for all the help!!

You are correct about needing to keep your PC up and running all the time to stream to your PBO using tversity or PlayOn. As far as running Tversity on a NAS this would have to be specific to the NAS itself; I never seen any NAS running tversity but some can run mediatomb UPNP media server. Unfortunately mediatomb is not nearly as powerful as tversity/playOn and can not scrape html pages unless you build a script for it. That being said mediatomb can run quite well on the PBO so the NAS point is kind of mute. Tversity/PlayOn is better suited for those of us that have a spare computer laying around that we can use as a NAS/TorrentBox and of course UPNP server (Tversity/PlayOn/mediatomb .....). This computer is stuck away somewhere in the basement and only require dusting once in a while (computer in the living room can be quite noisy). Install a piece of software like VNC on it and everything on that computer can be done remotely ......... Sorry I regress ........

Cheers !!!